Absolutely rubbish performance in which we simply havent offered any attacking threat. Nyambe has been terrible, Edun has been shaky too. Brereton has been piss poor as a central striker, clumsy and simply doesnt time his runs well enough, keeps straying offside. Khadra has good feet but never gets the last bit right, and Buckley has been really poor, like a performance from him 2 years ago. The sub wont help us get back into the game either.

Apparently travelled with the team which he presumably wouldn't if he wasn't available for selection.

Has Davenport ever played at left back? Makes no sense to have Clarkson as a sub over Pickering and I do wonder if it is potentially contractual, has he ever been left out of the squad?

I would have personally possibly played Pickering and Ayala but I do get sticking with a team that won last time out. Very strange that Pickering isn't at least on the bench though, the bench is imbalanced, do we need Clarkson on there when we have Rothwell and Johnson? We are fucked if either full back gets injured.

I think Davenport did enough against Sheffield United to warrant another start. It was probably his best performance in a Rovers shirt and crucially it adds some more balance that Rothwell beside Travis doesn't give.

Mowbray said that Ayala and Pickering are back, Gallagher is still injured and surprise surprise, sick note Rankin Costello has got a new injury. Unsure if Van Hecke got a 1 or 3 match ban. For me there are 2 decisions to make, I would be tempted to name an unchanged line up but with 2 of undoubtedly our strongest back 4 returning, Edun and Wharton against Pickering and Ayala are the 2 main decisions. Edun has ability but can get caught out of positon and Wharton had signs of understandable rustiness 2 weeks ago. The midfield balance looked better in the last game, so Rothwell is a very capable sub. Kaminski Nyambe Lenihan Ayala Pickering Travis Davenport Poveda Buckley Khadra Brereton Subs: Pears, Wharton, Edun, Johnson, Rothwell, Dolan, Butterworth Clarkson, Van Hecke and Carter to miss out on the squad. Butterworth to make way when Gallagher returns.

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Fair play to Paul Mani, he has done exactly what I suspect that he set out to do by dropping that terrible post in an irrelevant thread and never returning back to it like farting in a room and making a quick getaway. Moving away from allegations of hypocrisy, if people criticise a player when he is playing poorly and then praise a player and rate him more when he starts doing well, is that fickle, or just normal? If anything, the opposite ie being stubborn about player opinions would be more counterproductive.

In regards to your nonsensical backwards argument that any potential FFP breach is down to the manager. Somehow you blame him as if hes the irresponsible one for merely spending the budget given to him by the owners! @Gav pointed out earlier that we have already been in embargo due to failure to fall under regulations well before Mowbray and Waggott rocked up. Venkys are the common denominator. Apologies if I have missed a response but what would you say to that. I also mentioned a metaphor that if you lent me money then ended up getting your house repossessed as a result. Would you kick yourself or blame me for accepting your kind gesture? I get that you may have heard some confidential gossip/whispers but it may well be clouding your judgement. "A lack of oversight" is such a passive, piss poor attempt to try and avoid giving the very same owners who give the money in the first place any blame.

Irrelevant to the point but there is no way that Ayala can be on 30k. Poveda 10k contribution seems beyond unlikely too. Backing the club and covering self inflicted losses after they happen is not the same either.

Again, it was and is newspaper gossip until proven otherwise. Please also note that what often happens is that one newspaper/source reports a rumour, and that is then copied and echoed across various further sources. We may be interested in him, but I could not possibly say that we are (or aren't) definitively.

Nope, not at all. Just to go back, my request was for a degree of flexibility in the budget for renewal of contracts and a couple of million on a striker following the sale of Armstrong. Lets not lose focus of the fact that you had similar requests, hence your daily suggestions of Healey, NIsbet etc, so I am not sure why you are suddenly so keen to go against that But our accounts run from July 1st through to June 30th. This training ground transaction was reported (this article seems to be what Rich Sharpe believes has happened or indeed the reasoning rather than anything official but I will take it as fact) as something done at the end of June to avoid potential FFP implications, at the end of the last accounting year. My request came after the Armstrong sale which as the article states was after June 30th, putting it in the next financial year ending in June 2022. Any signings/signing on fees as suggested by myself at the time would also fall into this accounting year to which we had only just begun. Therefore any issues regarding FFP relating to last year, which were subsequently overcome anyway, had absolutely no relation to what I was suggesting. I repeatedly did point out that any signings would have been in the new accounting year, but you never directly responded to that. In fact the article implicitly states that the Armstrong fee will give us some flexibility underneath the FFP threshold this year, so it actually backs me up that we could spend a bit in the summer if we had chosen too: "With the sale of Armstrong going through in August, for an initial £15m plus add-ons, to Southampton, that will give Rovers even more room to breathe moving forward, with that included in the accounts to the year June 30 2022." All of this is prior to the additional issues that I raised regarding not being able to judge based solely from the accounts how much of any losses were eligible for FFP regulations, and how renewals of contracts would likely be financially beneficial for us in the long term, tying into what was mentioned in the article about making profits on player sales as a more sustainable way of moving the club forward.

These groups that you have created culminating in group 3 are shaped around your own personal views on who is to blame. Venkys didn't make a few mistakes at first, learn from them and then run the club as normal with a vested interest ever since. This is such a bizarre take on things. Mowbray threatens sustainability of club by spending the budget he was given by the owners.

I dont think that its an issue whereby Mowbray would take his foot off the gas if he was given a new deal but there is absolutely no need to give him one before the end of the season, and only then if we overachieve and make the top 6.

Neither Loftus Cheek or Winks will ever come close to dominating anything near the biggest of games. Neither are particularly good, especially Winks. There is something in the methodology of building around our own strengths and minimising our weaknesses, which perhaps leads to a more pragmatic midfield. Bellingham is the obvious break through star although not a typical playmaker himself.

Qualifying is a means to an end, some of those teams had much stronger opposition, Italy have had a bit of post victory complacency and Holland are crap. We lost the most important game of the year unfortunately. Not denying that we have some very good players and albeit with a favourable draw, came so close to winning a tournament but like I said, nothing can be learnt really from smashing teams full of players that went back to their day jobs today. Nothing.

Nothing can be read into hammering the 2 crap teams of the last week. We with a couple of jitters sailed through a piss poor qualification group, nothing to see here. But absolutely nothing can be learnt from beating San Marino.

What is the information? Or what about? I dont get what possibly could be said that causes sudden optimism that everything is going to change from the owners.

I am not sure that 5 caps for Ireland is a badge of honour these days to be fair!

Information? Which information? From where?

Do you expect it or is it more hope at this stage? Also, regarding your repeated assertion that Mowbray has caused any issues with FFP because of what he has spent. If you gave me 10k if I asked for it to help me and then had your house repossessed after failing to pay bills as a result. Would you blame me or yourself?

That would be treating the symptoms rather than the root cause. I am not sure how we could possibly influence that really anyway. Even if we could force the manager or even Waggott out, and bare in mind that even Kean left of his own accord, that would be a decision made under duress from the owners and would be unlikely to suddenly provoke a sudden inheritance of sense. Did you say they have 2 more years to convince you?

Venkys wont act proactively in the January window even if we are genuinely in the hunt for the play offs sadly. The contract certainly shouldn't be extended though. If we finish in the top 6, then at the end of the season it is worth considering. What would upset the rest of the squad?

Do you know where I could find these quotes? If contracts would upset others, that would imply that they would be paid above the current wage structure.

There is no suggestion that it does include loan players (these teams will have players out on loan at far lower than Championship level) nor that the figures are accurate as anything regarding wages is purely speculative. But even if they are on wages above that, we could still and likely are only paying a fraction of those wages.