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This season is the most difficult in living memory to predict. Anything could happen. 1. Where will Rovers finish ? I’m going to say 11th, though I may reassess this nearer to the weekend. I think we will do ok implementing JDT’s new style, but our lack of defensive reinforcements is a concern. We are considerably weaker at the back than last season as things stand. 2. Who will be the Rovers (official) Player Of The Season ? Gallagher. More in hope than expectation. Now or never. 3. Who do you think will be the breakout/breakthrough academy player this season ? (Let’s say under 23 at season start & fewer than 10 1st team appearances to be eligible) Adam Wharton 4. Who will win the Championship ? Watford 5. Where will Burnley finish ? Outside the playoffs 🤞🤞

That’s the figure I heard we offered him. In my opinion it’s pathetic.

Some good points. I know his partner was due to give birth soon so staying local might well have suited. Everyone laughed when Amari’i Bell went to Luton. That was meant to be a step down, and him “finding his level” as well.

Our offer to him must have been absolutely dreadful. Can’t have been much movement our end on the “derisory” terms we started off with. Either that or something really out of the ordinary has gone on.

Think this thread needs a bump to keep the Transfer one on track (some hope!) Very strange situation…

Apparently we looked at him in January… might have failed Mowbray’s “Human Being Test” judging by some of those comments. Definitely the position that needs addressing most urgently. Not getting carried away til it’s confirmed though.

Steve Kean still works in football.

A good question for Waggott… Did you offer Nyambe a higher wage than yours?

Nyambe is younger than Travis, Wharton and Harry Chapman, but has played more games for Rovers than all those three combined. Very good amount of experience for his age and I think the injury prone label is very overplayed.

I mentioned it because I’ve heard it from 2 people independently. One works in football, one in the media. Both were “I’ve heard that…” rather than anything really concrete. As time rumbles on it just gets me thinking there might be something to it.

No clue, I might work it out if I can be arsed. Judging by the improved points total when he does play, I reckon it’s more.

Obviously not hearing it from the morons directly, of their stooges. Purely rumour I’ve heard, no attempt to dress it up as anything more.

Stats from last season as of 1st May… When Nyambe is on the pitch we concede a goal on average every 109 minutes. When Nyambe is off the pitch we concede a goal on average every 60 minutes. Goals conceded with Nyambe - 23* Goals conceded without Nyambe - 26 Nyambe has played 62% of total minutes this season *This includes 7 in one game against Fulham In the 21 games where Nyambe has played the full 90 minutes we have taken 38 points. In the other 24 games we have taken 28 points. Clean sheets with Nyambe - 11 Clean sheets without Nyambe - 1

Heard whispers from a couple of places now that Venky’s have decided that enough is enough in terms of subsidising monthly losses, and the cheques won’t be coming. The lack of transfer activity, sub par contract offers and shite ticket pricing do nothing to dispel my fears this may be true. A desperate, doomed to fail attempt to balance the books? If this is true, they might as well just fuck off now.

The only thing it shows is that Wigan are offering more than us for a player we would “love to keep” and offered “the best deal we could”.

Since Venky’s decided to freeze out Salgado, we’ve made numerous attempts to solve the problem right back position. Only one has worked. Bradley Orr, Jason Lowe, Adam Henley, Bruno Ribeiro, Todd Kane, Ben Marshall, Elliott Bennett, Paul Caddis, Joe Rankin-Costello, Deyovaisio Zeefuik… Nyambe has been the one shining light in a sea of disappointment, wingers of varying quality, and utter shite. Easily replaceable? Really?

I don’t know where this idea that staying at Rovers is ambitious has come from all of a sudden? The usual empty words about “projects” and “journeys” and “wanting to get promoted to the premier league” are never backed up by anything remotely resembling ambition.

If the money was anything like the same, absolutely. But it begs the question how much they are willing to pay him, or more importantly how little we were willing to offer.

Not a lot of difference between the average wage per player. We will have more younger players, but all theirs have probably got a rise after promotion.

Oh I’m sure he will.

So I take it you’d be annoyed if we signed Cyrus Christie then? Or any of the other free agents who haven’t signed anywhere yet. They must not be rated by other clubs either.

If I was a young player at Rovers I’d be a lot more bothered by the fact we don’t pay our academy graduates enough to keep them here. What message does it send about our pathway when Lenihan, who has been here for years, played over 250 games, become our captain, and gained international recognition has just walked away to a team of similar stature? They know that they will have to leave at some point to get what they are worth, why not now?

I was looking at fees brought in by Venky’s from academy products. Its definitely a cost effective way of fielding a team when you have a crop of players good enough. We look like we are in a purple patch currently. Beats paying loan fees for sure! Its a huge asset for us, no doubt. If we’d managed to retain Lenihan and Nyambe we’d have a strong team made up of majority graduates. Unfortunately, we also seem to see it as a way to underpay wages. We need to quickly get better at retention.

Still just about in profit from Jones, Hanley and Raya. With Wharton, Travis, Carter, Buckley and Vale (at least) looking like they will play a big role this season, it makes sense. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we had scrapped it though. Would be typically shortsighted and idiotic for us to baulk at the couple of million a year it costs and spend that on one or two loans instead.

No, I don’t. But history suggests that it’s within our structure, and has been on the table for some time. I doubt I’d be far off with my grand a week prediction. I’m certainly not going to start presuming Waggott has suddenly become proactive and pragmatic while dealing with contracts.