Or the plan is that Tosin and Lenihan are the clear first choice pairing and that we have enough cover in the existing squad. Or we are planning on signing a free agent to add additional cover.

I like them both.

Nooooo....don't use logic and reason. Reliable sources have told me that at around 14h yesterday, Mowbray spun a wheel with every player's name on it and decided to sell/loan out whoever it landed on. He also made no inquiries about players until after lunch yesterday. All in all, it was a productive afternoon.

Overall I think it is a decent window. The only concern is CB really, which puts a lot of pressure on how good Tosin is (then again, if you are highly rated by Guardiola there's no reason why he shouldn't be first choice), and the possibility that we might be able to strengthen with a free agent signing.

No, it doesn't. It may just show that Mowbray realised that Mulgrew put him in an impossible situation. Tough to drop your club captain in a position where he is unlikely to ever be subbed on.

Have you ever considered that either: - We did try for him earlier and things only got moving late in the window. or - Southampton only made him available late in the window.

If nothing else, that should teach everyone a lesson when they try to judge a player based on what 'WBA fans are saying'.

Well, we did bring one in and I would say there is a good chance that at least one is signing in the next 50 minutes.

90 minutes is a long time at the end of a window. Plenty of time.

Square peg? He’d be absolute quality. I won’t believe it until I see it, but if we somehow got Murphy and some central defender to bolster options I would consider it a successful window. if we sign no one, which I expect, it will have been a poor one.

Honestly, I should report this post.

Yes, who would I rather have playing out wide in a 3 man attack: Wayne Rooney or Danny Graham? Hm...

Rooney seems like just the deal we should have been after. Must still have a house in the area, so would have been more convenient than Derby. Great experience to pass on to younger players and could definitely still do a job in the Championship. Would be just the kind of big name the owners were desperately after when they first joined. He might turn out to be rubbish and a horrific coach, but it would have at least generated a bit of interest.

Huh? What an arbitrary set of figures to throw out there. This window has shown that every club (including the likes of City and United) are struggling to get deals done. Clubs want more. Players want more. Hopefully, we can get something done in the next 72 hours.

No. Because Palmer would be 3rd choice for 1 spot. Personally, I would be starting Brereton now, but in the very least I would have him as second choice for 1 spot (with the possibility that we could actually play 2 up front). So, no, not quite the same as the Palmer situation and we are now discussing players that we should add to our current squad - not decisions that were made 12 months ago. We have the squad that we have now. The question is how can we make it better.

God, the f*cking Brereton discussion. Did I sign him? Is he the counter-argument to every point that is made? I personally think Brereton will turn out to be good. Would I have spent 7m on him over signing players for more important areas of the squad? No. Do I think he deserves to be given a little bit of slack on this messageboard? Yes.

I am as frustrated as anyone on here by our transfer activity and the way we started the season but can people please stop analysing what managers say in public. Some managers will happily throw their players under the bus (Mourinho). Some managers will defend their players until the very end (Guardiola). What a manager says in public is not a reflection of how he feels, what he says to the players, or what he will do. Be critical as you want of our actual transfers and how we played yesterday, but let's stop pretending that Mowbray drinks some truth serum before he steps in front of the press.

Probably a place for him in the team? We can't play Palmer without dropping Dack. If we dropped Dack I would rather play Rothwell. So you'd spend 3m on a player who would be 3rd in the pecking order?

So, took a day to think things over. Positives - Johnson (major positive for me and a huge encouragement) Things that were ok verging on positives - Formation Travis Gallagher Negatives - Defending (collectively) Bennett Dack Overall, it was a game that we should have won and, in my many ways, we played well enough to win it. That being said, we created very few chances and rarely looked like troubling them. What's worse, Charlton only managed to make it into our half on a handful of occasions and managed to come away with 2 goals. The sad thing? There's nothing new here. I'm not a big Mowbray hater - not that I love him either - and I will reserve some judgement until 4/5 games into this season, but something has to change. Bennett cannot play. We need a CB to replace Mulgrew. Dack is doing his best possible impression of Rhodes. He had one moment of quality yesterday, but, apart from that, he was a complete passenger. We can't afford to have a midfielder who goes is anonymous for large stretches of the match. He should have been the first one-off for me, it was crying for Rothwell to come on in his place and add a bit of pace. The one major positive is that I hope this forces a bit of action on the transfer front and in the selection process - but I am not that hopeful.

Yes, because scouts have never passed on a good player before...certainly not the Barnsley scouts...

Glad to see this racist nonsense getting another go-around in this thread. Expected more of you - especially expected you to be aware of the fact that this is the article Sterling used as an example of the differences in tabloid coverage of black and white players. We don’t know why this deal is falling through. Maybe he’s a massive tw*t. News flash - most footballers are. May also be us messing around or City messing around. Let’s just stop sharing this complete shit.

Shocking. Almost as if a manager is choosing to not share his entire transfer strategy with the general public.

Good teams have been playing short passes from goal kicks for years, the only difference now is that you are allowed to receive the ball inside the penalty area. There's no logic behind simply lumping it up and hoping that something comes from winning the header, makes far more sense to look to keep possession.

Jim, I've been around here long enough to know that you are smarter than that.

Well, he did manage to make Everton's bench on a couple of occasions last season, so it seems about right that he would at least expect to be in the discussion to make ours.