Fitness permitting, Beck is an excellent signing for Derby. Didnt see many left backs better than him in the league, good both defensively and going forward. There is a big snobbery towards a manager signing players he has previously worked with nowadays, its seen as prehistoric. Its all about signing based on data, plucking out players from obscurity. All of the benefits remain though. You know the player is good at the level, you know his character which data cant measure, they can settle in quickly, they can set standards. All 3 did well for us and make us weaker and Derby stronger.

He was probably the best left back in the country last year so its an incredibly high benchmark.

I think he would have gone on to a Premier league team but for that injury. Now Premier League teams will be holding back to see if he’s over it.

Exactly. Its not negative to prepare for a scenario whereby we dont know how Tyjon will adapt. Equally, if we sign someone but Tyjon hits the ground running, the chance is still there for him to really establish himself and play more ahead of other options. There are many variables: - we dont know if his ability is Championship standard yet - is he over his injury problems? - is his body capable? - will he be able to play regular minutes across 46 games without occasional spells out of it? - can he cope with the pressure of being one injury to Cantwell away from playing week in week out? We could be in a bad spell, we could be playing high pressure games etc Hopefully he can do it all but we cant possibly know and it isnt negative to say that.

It tells me they think Kerkaz is better than Beck at the moment. I think they’re right.

Sorry but rovers99 is spot on here I do believe if your good enough age is irrelevant but when it comes to championship over 48 game season (2 cup games minimum) there has to be balance in playing him if cantwell was to get injured for a significant period of time we need other options other than tyjon to hold down the fort in that position look at rigg in his first year at Sunderland 20 odd appearances not reliant on him or pressuring him just giving him that experience and enough for him to say next season I’m going to compete regularly for first team spot

Deary me, I never said that he isnt ready physically. Im saying that we need to be well covered in case he isnt, in case he needs any spells out, in case his injury problems come back or are exascerbated playing mens football. If he comes in, is of the standard and is physically sustainable, then fantastic, whether we sign someone or not. But we cant just assume he will be. Also, without signing a new contract, we have seen this script before.

Beck is a good player however if he was that good he would be on loan to a PL team right now, not playing for a team that almost got relegated from the championship last season. I would rather have our own players that we can develop. I would be worried if I was Derby, two players on one year deals and a on loan left back, not forgetting a striker who is out for a few months already! If this was us the MB would be in meltdown!

I have read all your posts thanks and I know what you have said. like I said previously, you always look the negative like whether he is physically capable and what happened if he can't cope. What happens if he can cope and is fine physically, ever thought of that RF99? Wharton was taking out of the team cos JDT dropped him over the defensively side of the game. he isn't going to commit unless he is getting the game time he wants and Ismael has talk to him and family.

Beck is a great little player. His physicality surprised me for his size as he's really aggressive but it did tell over a season that he wasn't robust enough yet to hack it week in week out.

I forgot about that signing yea i think he’s a class little player but some of the comments on here tonight would make you think we have lost maldini to derby

They've just bought Milos Kerkez for £45m from Bournemouth, which tells you what they think about Beck.

Let me clarify my point on beck I think beck is a class wee player and can go on to do well but in order to call a player the best in that position for a certain club over the last 15/20 years surely you would have had to play more than 25 games to even be considered in that conversation That’s my point

Your right they did forgot about him pushes beck closer to the exit door

A top player. He’s got what Beck has and a bit more.

Now they have 3. Kerkaz who’s 21. For my money, he’ll keep Beck out of the team.

They’ve got 3 left backs. They brought the kids from Bournemouth did they not. assuming ‘they’ are Liverpool that is.

Ask Suhail.

Damn, John, if you wanted our team from last year why did you leave? 😆

…is the right answer.

I agree. At first it was to cope with the loss of my parents. Then I was made redundant last year so haven't been working. I'm cutting back especially when I get a job

No but I’d suggest that you would need to watch a player for more than 25 games for them to be called your clubs best left back in decades or the last 15 years iv stated beck is good im not having hes been our best left back in the last 15 years and id say if you asked many managers ex players etc id be very surprised if he was even mentioned

Derek Williams was mediocre. Martin Olsson and Gael Givet were streets ahead of Beck.

To play which position?

Would’ve been in for windass as I mentioned earlier in the thread, but looks like he has decent options elsewhere