Down to the recruitment department? They have fuck all money to work with and if teams could build championship sides on buttons they would all be doing it.

No. Why would I?

Oh boo hoo travis did you not like the manager being honest with the fans/press What bolloxs. travis and his slimey reps will have been conspiring in secret with eustace and his cronies about getting him to derby for months Ismael is clearly similar to jdt in that it's his way or the highway and just says it how it is... And I actually like that(even if it does upset prima-madonnas like travis) to a point (which i dont feel Ismael has crossed. Souness was the same! Only Souness did end up crossing that line towards the end of his tenure her hahaha

Football is a team game played by individuals. They all look after number one. Nobody is going to rock the boat - ever. There are a multitude of lucrative jobs awaiting for ex-players who toe the line and keep their traps shut. Throw in coach anybody, set piece coach ? They’ve all got their eyes on the future prizes. Remember what happened to Mike Newall when he spoke out ?

We hadn't lost to Burnley in over 30 years before this lot bought the club but now we haven't beaten them for over 15 years !

Yes. The only thing you can say slightly in their defence is that this carnage should come as no surprise. Gestede specifically said during the car crash interviews that the fact so many key players were out of contract was "an exciting opportunity" so it was obvious what was coming.

Owen Coyle and the board were aligned Steve Kean and the board were aligned. Our best seasons have come under coaches who wouldn't work under these crap conditions and tried through the media to make people aware of what they where working under.

Really than this current group please elaborate

Jim Illey

Agreed. Do you miss Greg Broughton yet however?

Telling the truth is such an odd concept for the Venky Rovers. Probably why people are suspicious.

No narrative, it's just common sense.

That's not me who is saying that no idea why my username is quoted as saying it

No we are not but the Venkies dream to be as soon as they can. Why donthey not just do one. It is onvious they have no interest in Rovers at all. Success is not required just the cheapest operating plan possible. I wish widespread Avian Flu on them. Shame to punish the chickens though. I hate em I really do. Do they hold meetings to figure out the best way to piss us off each season. Did they really just allow a team finishing 7th to be totally dismantled? Last january a good striker and one ir 2 others may well have seen a serious tip at the Prem, this lot? Nah let's give em nowt and then avoid it happening again. Hate em simply hate em.

Because whatever the plan may or may not be, it definitely won't work unless they are.

I'll judge him purely on results. We've had plenty of other managers in the past who've had far less to work with.

Beautiful spouting of club's new narrative.

Bradford’s last win at Ewood was 1921, until last Tuesday.

You keep saying this "historic failings" Was Gestede not in position all last year?Was Pasha not here? They chose to wait until the summer(Gestede said this)

If Gestede doesn't know what he is doing and/or is hell bent on a project that cannot possibly work, why is it important they're both aligned?

How do we determine worst ever manager? Previously Iv been given excuses about managers because of injuries or lack of investment Surely val falls into the category of shafted by recruitment

Ok. No probs. I tend to post, then reread and correct and I thought you were criticising the unedited grammar / spelling.

I agree. He was asked a straight question and he gave a straight answer. That’s not “ throwing anybody under the bus” , it’s simply telling the truth.

Sorry, think I have misunderstood. I thought your post in quotation marks was VI -ie gobbledegook. Don't think there has been a post of yours I have disagreed with. 🙂

I agree. It's far from the first thing I'd be lining up to criticise VI for, I reckon he may well turn out to be one of our worst ever managers which is far more relevant. However If negotiations have been going on in private behind the scenes then for him to unilaterally announce this without the permission of the Travis camp then it's pretty poor form. Then of course, there's the possibility that Derby won't meet our valuation anyway in which case VI will have besmirched Travis's reputation in the eyes of the supporters for no good reason. It comes across as though he is acting to instruction and trying to ensure Travis leaves.