No, no. You changed your point halfway through. You're SO determined to be right that you changed "pointless for Spurs" to "pointless on the pitch". Let's debate in good faith.

Carter has been injured alot in the last 2 years and Wharton just been out for 12 month. Again what you overlook repeatedly is that. You just ignored my point repeatedly on whether he has been success for Spurs for them? Answer he hasn't. Its been totally pointless signing for them on the pitch for them. That's was my entire point

I'll be getting one of the gold shirts in the near future, they look classy.

I haven't dispute that point but my point it isn't benefit Spurs on the pitch for them which my post was about. He hasn't been Success for them

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Nixon said it possibility not me

So no acknowledgement of the fact that hes played so many games already having gone down the route he has, or the games he will play this season? Theres literally a Stoke fan in the Championship thread saying he was their best outfield player last season and that hes developed well and will go on to bigger things. Does that sound a player who has moved and had his development stunted? Also, assuming he never breaks through at Spurs and is sold on. In your head, signing a player and then selling him at a massive profit is "pointless." He may have broken through here, although Hyam, Carter and Wharton are all still here. Big assumption to suggest that he would have instantly become first choice. But either way, even if he had, he would just match the regular game time he has already achieved, so how would he have been MORE developed had he stayed? Your alternative choice of staying would just at best give him the same exposure at the same level that he has had.

He will benefit spurs financially. That’s the point that you are clearly missing or just being too stubborn to accept that you are wrong

I didn't see either so not too sure. Pasha was there though and got a cold reception from the fans. I am five minutes from the hotel they are stopping at and I believe they are playing a round of golf today, so if I get time, I might pop up and have a look.

Was Gestede or Adam Owen there on Tuesday?

Phillips only played due to the lack of experienced cbs. At every opportunity that there was experienced available he was dropped. Wharton's long term injury gave Phillips a boost up the pecking order. JDT's first game Phillips wasnt even the first choice Academy player to come on with Barnes coming on ahead of him. Barnes' long term injury gave him another boost up the pecking order. If those two hadnt been injured Phillips COULD have been even lower down the pecking order and so his first team playing time was limited. Phil Jones one the other hand held onto his first team place when circumstances prevailed because he looked comfortable in the first team where as Phillips sometimes looked uncomfortable at times so I think Phillips wouldnt have got as much championship experience now if he had stayed at Rovers

Did he break through at Spurs? Did Spurs first team benefit from his signing? If he had stayed here over the last 2 years he would have broke through and we a first team regular now given his talent.

So his development has stalled and thus he made a terrible decision to leave here where he was behind other senior centre backs?

You said it was "a possibility" but my post was about Nixon supppsedly saying that we still want him. I think thats an out of date suggestion and you can discount it.

They played in the home kit on Tuesday, but may change on Friday as Elche play in Green and White. We will clash with either our home shirt or third kit, so it could be the Gold one, if Elche do choose their normal strip.

Never comment on Kapuadi if you look closer at my reply to Mark

You dont address peoples points, you just repeat your own. Has he developed? Yes, he has played and this season will continue to play loads of football. Will it benefit Spurs? Yes, they will make a considerable profit on him so good investment. And would he have immediately and suddenly have gone here from 5th choice to 2nd? No.

Yes it is pointless signing cos he isnt in the first team squad at Rovers. And no I haven't how old he is

No way is Kapuadi a possibility. He is clearly out of date with that comment. We wanted a left footer to come in, wanted Kapuadi, couldnt afford him so got McLoughlin instead. I suspect any centre back who comes in now will be much cheaper and right footed as its only under consideration to cover Carter.

Nothing bitter in post firstly RF99. He would have a develop here if he stayed instead of chasing the money instead of being loaned here and there. I would say first choice next to Hyam Did he break through to Spurs first team? No then its a pointless signing for them. Wharton when he joined Palace made the right move cos he was playing regular, improving and now ready for a move one of the best teams.

Do you genuinely think he would have played 10-15 games more here than what he has moving? He has played consistently, week in week out for 1 and a half of 2 years so that would only be bettered if he instantly had gone from 5th choice here to playing regularly. And we still had Hyam and Carter who were our centre backs when we finished 7th with Wharton also here so there is no way that he would have been a regular here in that first half season in which he went to Spurs and didnt play for a bit. You also mention being more sought after potentially because we are higher in the league. In that first season, we nearly went down. In the second season, he would perhaps have been even less likely to play under Eustace.

I think our days paying for experienced premier league players are long gone now. In todays market we wouldn't even be able to get Downing or Graham. It really stretches us to get even experienced Championship players like Cantwell, Baath or Wieman. We're obviously trying to stick to 10k p/w max. I get the sense Eustace really had to push to get Cantwell.

I would loved to have been in Spain, watching Rovers in one of the new away shirts. They played in the new gold shirts against Everton.

Can't beat stern tests, it sorts out your strengths and weaknesses.