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But a minute ago you said we had 4 strikers. You're contradicting your own points and having lost the argument you've nothing left to fall back on but resort to insults. I still can't see what it is about this guy that makes you leap to his defence. He almost couldnt possibly be doing any worse than anyone else could he, whether it be League position, performances or the state of the squad.

FFP is a rolling three year cycle Wharton was sold during the 23-24 accounting period so 25-26 will be the last year to include his fee. Sammie was sold during the 24-25 accounting period so 26-27 will be the last year to include his.

Nope that was pure Nixon spin the fee is alleged to be c1 million Euro's which is presumably about what was paid for him. No doubt plenty add ons involved so i look forward to many future payments when he suddenly turns into this mythical goal machine in a sub championship standard league.

It looks a bit odd to me, as if the players have been superimposed on the background, typical of AI, and I don't think it was 1966 as I'm sure the V-neck shirts had long been replaced by round neck shirts by then. Liked Mike Harrison. Saw him leaving the bookshop at Sudell Cross and getting into his VW Beetle circa 1967. Natty dresser and trendy car at the time.

Why turn down a transfer offer from Arsenal then if the CLUB not Ismael didn't expect him to play a part. If we don't sell him this window we will get fuck all for him and the only chance he was going to sign contract was by getting first team chances .Sorry but he looks far away from being able to contribute at championship level

Chris Brown was a similar kind of player, playing in a team that played more to his strengths with Conway being an assist machine and he scored 0 goals and his only notable contribution was a red card against Newport County! Gueye is admittedly a donkey but got half a dozen goals and a number of assists last season, goals that won games at that. It’s not revisionist to suggest he’s been better for us than Brown (never mind the likes of Edinho Junior, Fode Koita and many others)

Yes its all ismaels fault. Gueye is shit Tyjon is far from ready to be playing championship football. And Leonard was a club decision I am not having that Ismaels idea. Seriously your thinking is warped. Its not the owners fault its Waggotts. The owners gave a hefty budget to be used in the January of Mowbrays last season but Mowbray turned it down.

How have they been pushing for Tyjon to have more minutes? He had two strikers he was prepared to use.

We don’t even have to do that. During the winter window players can play whether they’re on the squad list or not:

Some people like to drag them out for days, i know you won't - you own the ban button 🙂

Keep the fans placated for a whole month then make it ten times worse by the end of January when 2 forwards don't sign? Sounds like nonsense to me Do you still think Cantwell wasn't really injured? Also after the window closed he did have 4 forwards Gudjohnson, Ohashi ,Gueye and Tyjon.The club turned down a bid from Arsenal in the summer they obviously were pushing for him to have more minutes.And Gueye did get minutes he didn't perform

They might have been, but they weren't when they were here. So much for 'I'll argue on this no more, I've made my point'. 😃.

The key to these arguments is read the actual debates not just throw out the same old 'but he scored more than him'. If we are judging on goals then why hasn't Gueye been a regular starter or sub recently, seeing as he was such a goal threat last season. Why did the other two have long careers in the second tier and a multitude of clubs employing them despite not the best scoring records ? Quite simple really they were better more effective team players.

2 strikers. He has CHOSEN not to utilise Tyjon and clearly never rated Gueye in the first place so wasnt prepared to play him. He also CHOSE to ostracise Leonard and sell him for peanuts.

Can anyone confirm that after bringing in circa £40m in transfer fees for Adam, Sammie etc that we are now in a different FFP cycle and all that money now means fuck all in terms of being able to make some significant investment for once?

But we had better squads.... Chris Brown 278 championship games, 13 Premier League Luke Varney 339 championship games, 8 top flight. As i said i wouldn't want any of them but it's cast iron that they'd get picked now before this seasons version of Gueye, goals last season or no goals. He'll score a few in China and disappear into the football wilderness abroad, i'll happily be corrected if not i wish him well. I will argue on this no more iv'e made my point.

Silly argument, equally you dont know Gestede or anyone else said he couldnt bring another striker in. Im fairly sure no one would have objected if he'd spent the money incinerated on Tavares on another striker instead for example. As regards asking for 2 strikers now, as I've said previously on other threads, I think this is all complete BS to keep the fans placated. I think he knows full well it's not happening but the reason it's necessary is they all fucked up the summer window and generally wasted whatever funds we did have.

Varney not significant enough to remember, but he was a wide man tbf. How was Brown better than him though? He never scored.....

You know Rovers fans have officially gone mental when people are arguing over Gueye, Brown and Varney. Have a beer and chill! 🤣

Going into the season we still had 4 strikers. Gudjohnson, Ohashi ,Gueye and Tjyon Now the last two haven't played much but it was certainly the clubs plan to have Tjyon involved more when they thought he might sign And Gueye opportunities were limited but when he did get them he was shit Ismael may well have wanted another forward but the club could have said no when we are carrying 4 already Like I said to RevidgeBlue he asked for 2 now and rhus far the club haven't delivered them

We all actually watched them. We all actually watched them score zero goals over a shockingly long period. We also watched Gueye score 8 in a similar number of games. Comparing them is a non starter. I don't care about their all round games, which weren't all that they're built up to be, when you are a pair of strikers who didn't score across nearly 70 games, you're worse than one who scored 8 in a similar period. And this ignores that Gueye did cause problems for teams at times when he didn't score, especially coming off the bench. Also you say you doubt the appearances would back it up, which I think is you saying their managers backed them more. Gueye only played 3 less games for us than the two of them put together. Despite only being here for less time than Chris Brown was.

Gueye fee was undisclosed, however, rumours are that it was £1.8m. If accurate, that would represent a slight profit on him, which is more than what we all expected we'd get for him. Bank it, learn from it, spend it (hopefully!).

Give over.

Bollocks total classic BRFCS revisionism again. You wouldn't want any of them but if they were here now they'd absolutely have been in the team before him do to other things they contributed. He plundered a few goals last season but has done jack all else in his time here and couldn't even figure out what offside was. He's so much better than them he's been bombed out to a tinpot outpost league. Honestly some people on here can't see further than their own hooters at times, not a personal dig by the way.

Can't say I agree with that. Literal bull in a china shop that seemingly had no control over his own body at any time I saw him play. Scored a couple sure, but up there with the absolute worst players I've seen in a Rovers shirt in his general play. Now, if Eustace had continued with him that may have changed, but we'll never know. .