[Archived] Nicko's Thread Part 3

[brfc_jonesy]

im in the opinion if he does a u turn, then we should sack him. I don't care how much it costs in compo, we can't have people mucking us about like this, as a club we got a reputation to think about instead of people walking all over us!

bring back souness

[nicko]

What a couple of days, what will come tomorrow?

What will come TONIGHT more like...this probably has to be resolved in the next few hours.

Bang goes mrs nicko's night out at the Chinky.

No offence to any Oriental readers.

[pick32]

nicko do you no if hughes will take the city job if the call from chelsea doesnt come?

[Mc Love]

What will come TONIGHT more like...this probably has to be resolved in the next few hours.

Bang goes mrs nicko's night out at the Chinky.

No offence to any Oriental readers.

Nicko, i would be surprised if any of them actually knew what a Chinky was

[Torgeir]

If you get money in the kitty - this £5 million that someone mentioned - then take it and move on.

How much of that will go towards hiring a new manager though? It's likely he'll be under contract too...

[Mozzer]

so potentially we could have over 20million to spend this summer?

compensation at a guess is 5million

we was rumoured to be getting 10million for transfers this summer any way

and bentley will probably leave for 10million or more..

nicko did you say sam allardyce wanted the blackburn job earlier?

[modes98]

If Chelsea can get Sparky to meet Roman fast then that will be the next development.

If he wants a manager by the end of the week then Hughes is the man, AC Milan are hardly going to let Ancelotti leave without a big fight and could they in theory make him serve his notice, if chelsea don't agree a deal and he has to quit.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Don't be daft, you seriously think Hughes would go this far with City if he didn't have intentions of taking the job if he can't get the Chelsea one?

Hughes would want to go to City regardless of the Chelsea situation, the sheer amount of transfer money available to him will lure him there...just as it nearly did with Newcastle.

It's amazing how quickly our opinions of a man change...one minute he's verging on genius, the next he's an idiot.

A budget that might not exist when he goes there if the media is to be believed as it could be all spent on signing Ronaldinho and Jo.

I just have the feeling he's done all this because of Chelsea, to get their attention knowing that Kenyon and others seriously want him there. Perhaps Kenyon started this whole series of events off by telling Hughes or his agent people want him at Chelsea and that they think they could get Roman to agree.

Hughes will go to City but i have the feeling that both his heart or his head isn't in the job. But thats his fault he has made an all out gamble to go to Chelsea the job he really wants.

[they_think_its_all_rover]

What will come TONIGHT more like...this probably has to be resolved in the next few hours.

Bang goes mrs nicko's night out at the Chinky.

No offence to any Oriental readers.

Next season if you're doing a Prem match report from the KC, take Mrs Nickowith you and go to Mr.Chu's! (it's the biggest chinky in Britain!)

[nicko]

nicko do you no if hughes will take the city job if the call from chelsea doesnt come?

I would think so unless he didn't fancy them when he met today.

However the fact that he has asked to speak to them and basically snubbed Rovers suggests to me that he would probably have to go now.

It's the second biggest gamble of his career.

The first was when he said he wanted to go and set this whole thing in motion.

[nicko]

How much of that will go towards hiring a new manager though? It's likely he'll be under contract too...

The best ones usually are.

[1864roverite]

Theres something thats been niggling me all day and it is this.

Hughes might yet have to talk to City but I am certain his advisors will know whats on the table.

Little old Frankie has yet to get his hands on all that money frozen in bank accounts and there is NO guarantee he will have it before the window closes for transfers, there are No guarantees he will even get it all.

Hughes faces the prospects of overhauling a seriously ailing club that appears rotten to the core. I would imagine there will be a massive amount of turmoil and back biting going on with even more to come.

On the playing side there is massive work to be done both in massaging over inflated egos, nurturing the youth systems, managing the new staff some of whom who are bound to have their noses put out of joint, getting players on the verge of leaving their own club to committ whilst at the same time putting into place prospective signings when there is clearly no money on the table to spend.

Its not as if Hughes and co are just going to walk in the doors and everything be hunky dory.

Its the last bit that is intrigueing. I wonder if he will be made aware of EVERYTHING that is wrong inside that big club ?

I cant help but wish him all the best, he has made us a much better club and he goes with heartfelt thanks. For me, there is no way back for Hughes at Rovers even if he does turn the City job down. With Chelsea not appearing to be bothered and maybe using him as a smoke screen themselves it may just leave Hughes in the lurch if doesnt like the City offer. One things for sure, he can kiss Fergies job goodbye and he will never make City as successful a club as he did Rovers.

Thats not being bitter its being a realist. One cant help thinking hes off to a loser so its goodbye from him and goodbye and thanks from us.

[Tom 1]

Why will he never make City as successful as he did you? You won nothing an qualified for Europe a couple of times. He hasn't got that much to better.

[they_think_its_all_rover]

The first was when he said he wanted to go and set this whole thing in motion.

What?

New Order are doing a new version and have asked Sparky to do the rap?

p.s. Thanks! I'm hungry now you've mentioned chinese and can't eat it because of ulcers!

[laughatthedingles]

One thing no-one has yet mentioned is that with Hughes going will be his backroom team too. If this includes Kevin Hitchcock then the acadamy will lose his 15 year old son who has been regularly playing for the under 18's and is rated VERY HIGHLY INDEED!

[BuckyRover]

Why will he never make City as successful as he did you? You won nothing an qualified for Europe a couple of times. He hasn't got that much to better.

That's what City achieved this season and Sven was sacked

[PAFELL]

What will come TONIGHT more like...this probably has to be resolved in the next few hours.

Bang goes mrs nicko's night out at the Chinky.

No offence to any Oriental readers.

My wife is chinese - no offence taken.

[nicko]

You could make Man City much better with money and organisation...I'm not sure they have either, but still.

IF there is money for players - and not ground-filling circus turns - then Sparky would do a good job there.

He has to get those questions answered fast for his own good. And whether those answers stand the test of time is also unknown.

I wonder if he would have talked to Man City if the Chelsea job had not been on the horizon. Funnily enough, I think not.

Strange things happen in this game.

[PAFELL]

Nicko, i would be surprised if any of them actually knew what a Chinky was

What !!!!!!! be as ignorant as you

[1864roverite]

Why will he never make City as successful as he did you? You won nothing an qualified for Europe a couple of times. He hasn't got that much to better.

Are you serious Tom? He saved us from relegation and has taken us to more semi finals than most of the other so called big clubs could ever dream of.

City do not have the foundation of Rovers, they are an unstable club with a muppet owner who pulls the strings whoever is in charge, their playing staff are nowhere as good as Rovers and will no doubt have to undergo major surgery just to even cope with playing teams such as Rovers. It has take a good 3 seasons to build Rovers, consolidation, stabilisation then progression. That has to happen at City and it wont happen overnight. In 3 years City might have had 3 different managers.

Get my drift pal? Thats the very reality of being a successful premiership side, something we are and something City are NOT.

[Head Rover Heels]

Why will he never make City as successful as he did you? You won nothing an qualified for Europe a couple of times. He hasn't got that much to better.

No, but he's got a lot more hoops to jump through, and many other obstacles in his way there, as mentioned above - The whole thing needs fixing - I guess it depends on whether he wants a real all round challenge, or whether he wants to concentrate on simply managing a team.

Either way, sounds like his transfer budget at City has already been spent for him.

[Blue n White Rover]

For some reason I still think Sparky will stay at Rovers

[The1mattjansen]

Has anyone else found that betfair's profit and loss calculator is not correct.

I have the following positions:

Hughes to win - (odds, stake, winnings) 9.22 £85.13 £699.61

Ancelotti to win - (odds, stake, winnings) 1.52 £65.09 £34.08

Hughes to lose - (odds, stake, winnings) 5.47 £51.72 £282.83

Having typed that out I realise it doesn't make all that much sense, but bascially there saying i stand to win 63p if ancelotti gets it and 383 for hughes, sounds miles off to me!

[Lathund]

One thing no-one has yet mentioned is that with Hughes going will be his backroom team too. If this includes Kevin Hitchcock then the acadamy will lose his 15 year old son who has been regularly playing for the under 18's and is rated VERY HIGHLY INDEED!

A lot of people have mentioned the backroom staff. And while it's always sad to lose a youngster, we have plenty of highly rated young keepers; Nielsen, Fielding and Bussman. Maybe Hitchcock's son will be the one that turns out the best, maybe he won't. FWIW it's not certain he'd move either, especially considering that they wouldn't need to move houses. Not all academy players follow their parents.

[Eddie]

Let's not go overboard with his achievements here.

Can he match one 6th place achievement? Yes, most certainly.

Can he match two semi-finals? Well that includes an element of luck, but he could make a final or win a cup which would surpass that.

Could he do better on average in the league? I would think so.

Could he do better in Europe? Most certainly, it would be hard to do that much given the format and the general standard of opposition.

Hughes did a good job here that probably peaked here in October. With money and time he could achieve greater things (although his total lack of tactics might prevent that...).

There's a fairly long list of managers who could claim to have achieved at least as much relative to the size of their club over the past 10 seasons (Allardyce, Reid, Souness, Bobby Robson, Brian Robson's West Brom miracle, Curbishley at Charlton, Wenger to an extent, Moyes...get the idea?).