[Archived] Nickos Thread

[my_name_is_Earl]

Speak for yourself, not everyone else!

Actually steverovers, that particular element of my comment was based upon the consistent stream of negativity regarding Ince that has flooded this thread over the last few days. You only have to look back over the last twenty or so pages to find that out.

A generalisation perhaps, but one that has heavily been enshrined by the opinions of so many other fans on this site.

[The Prof.]

Aha, just like Brian Kidd did in his first game at Ewood, when he wasn't supposedly in charge, running down from the stands like a madman, screaming & shouting at the players?Or stood there stock still, placid and measured a la Hughes?

Or maybe like a bull overdosed on testosterone chomping to get mating a la Allardyce? Or playing out some deranged, Ted Rogers 3-2-1 style hand signals on the touchline like a lunatic puppeteer a la Benitez?

So, what traits are you suggesting Ince displays that he's not in charge? Do you mean during a game, or off-the-field? Facts man, out with them, please!

No no it's not a playing thing with me. Where did you get this idea?

I've been honest and said I havn't took my seat yet this season and will make my mind up when I have seen them play a few times.- read the posts - my point is I don't think he is in charge behind the scenes -see transfers- and he is certainly having some trouble convincing SOME players he's in charge of them.

When I see them play I'll make a comment on his teams playing style and managerial approach then.

If I want to speculate on a messageboard I will. However I won't

a. come to Ince's instant defence whatever - like some people are doing. People have to earn my respect. Or

b. re-write other peoples posts so it says something completely different. There is just a little too much of that on this board IMO.

[briansol]

There is also very worrying info from Norway today regarding MGP's relationship with Ince.

He says about the new manager:

"It's exiting. I have a good relationship with the manager, and I hope it will become even better."

Somebody has obviously not read the script...

[my_name_is_Earl]

On this Ince bashing even before a competitive ball is kick! I would like to ask Is Rome being built overnight? Ince said he is here for long when he came and a learning curve for himself from lower tier to the top he is in now.

In fairness, if that is the case, then Rovers should never have appointed Ince. Rovers were/are a consistent top ten premiership side. Why should we be looking at nurturing new British managers who potentially make us worse off in the short term, especially if they'll just pack up and leave when they are even remotely successful?!

[The Prof.]

There's nothing whatsoever wrong with having worries - I'd like to see a quality replacement in for Bentley in sooner rather than later, and am concerned that we seem to have cocked up the Annan thing.

But a lot of the stuff flying about is well OTT imo.

It's a messageboard Rev. It's what it's here for.

Don't let it get to you!

[Hughesy]

He has also said in his interview that he is ready to start taking free kicks again and that he is now physically and mentally refreshed and that he is hoping for a top season from him.

I think he will be back to his old self now Big Head has gone

[blue phil]

How so? Way I see it, we didn't take the option up. We'd have cocked it up more if we took him on & he was pants, surely?

Well if Wenger takes a look at him and then signs him I think we can say it was a cock up .

Particularly when you take into account the relatively small amount of money we're talking .

[Parsonblue]

Just seen this -

Blackburn have made a £200,000 bid for the new Peter Crouch - Tom Denton. The 18-year-old striker, who has been with non-league Wakefield, is 6ft 7in

Surely that decision can't be based on his performance at Stalybridge the other night. He did nothing to suggest he was any better than the youngsters we already have. Certainly didn't look 6ft 7in from where I was sat. He was OK when the ball was in the air and was able to flick it on. However, he didn't cause problems in the box - his goal was due to a dreadful mistake by the 'keeper. Certainly didn't look anywhere near as good as Jamie Clarke who we've loaned to Accrington Stanley.

[philipl]

Well if Wenger takes a look at him and then signs him I think we can say it was a cock up .

Particularly when you take into account the relatively small amount of money we're talking .

The official line from the club is still that they want to watch Annan playing in a competitive match for Staebeck this afternoon isn't it? Presumably that means there is somebody on the ground in Norway who can go talk to Start if the outcome is positive.

[The Prof.]

How so? Way I see it, we didn't take the option up. We'd have cocked it up more if we took him on & he was pants, surely?

I'm concerned that Annan didn't take the offered option up.

[Hughesy]

Rumours that Ince could be there in person to watch him

[PLZ Blue]

WTF is with Ince and this Andrews bloke???

Incey: This is the Premier League... Pay attention mate!

[Bobby G]

If he is then Annan better take that with a bit of respect and stop huffing and puffing.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just seen this -

Blackburn have made a £200,000 bid for the new Peter Crouch - Tom Denton. The 18-year-old striker, who has been with non-league Wakefield, is 6ft 7in

It's Ince's cunning new game plan.

He'll sign Zigic as well and the pair will wander side by side down the pitch playing head tennis with each other with the opposition unable to get anywhere near the ball.

[Parsonblue]

I would have thought the perfect solution with regard to Andrews would be for John Williams to ask for him on a six month loan. If he proves good enough we sign him and if not we send him back. If that was the approach taken with Annan surely it should be the same with Andrews.

If we aren't prepared to send £2 million on a young prospect with possible potential why should Ince be allowed to spend £2 million on a guy who is 28 and has failed to impress at Championship level, let alone in the Premier League. If MK Dons say no to a loan then we should walk away from this deal.

[nicko]

If he is then Annan better take that with a bit of respect and stop huffing and puffing.

What does that mean?

The kid came over here, thought he was signing, read that the chairman was feeling the love for him...and was then told it was only going to be a loan.

If he's not what the manager wants, fair enough. But don't blame the kid for being upset that his move didn't come off for him.

This Arsenal thing was rumbling while he was over - and he STILL wanted to play for Rovers. He's not being childish, he is reacting as most people would.

[my_name_is_Earl]

Nicko, what is the deal here? First Castillo and now Annan. What is it with our communications that seems so unorganised? Nobody appears to have a clue about anything.

[Ewood and I Would]

You again...sorted out that 'two loan players' garbage yet?

No I'm still waiting for David Bentley to sign that new contract as you claimed would happen fifty times

Wenger wants to see Annan in the flesh before he buys him. It will not be an extended trial, it would be for one day. If the player is happy with that arrangement it will happen...and that will be very soon.

Oh come on nicko you love me really

[nicko]

Nicko, what is the deal here? First Castillo and now Annan. What is it with our communications that seems so unorganised? Nobody appears to have a clue about anything.

Castillo came over, thinking he was signing and then found out it was a trial. He was basically turned down after a couple of days.

Annan came over, thought he was joining and then was offered a loan after three days.

I can understand a 'sifting through' process - and you do need to be sure about deals - but if it happens too often then players will be wary of dealing with the club.

It's not a lack of communication. But a bit of lack of respect.

[hawkiiz]

just one thing... If arsenal have made a huge bid, why do start say they have no received any bid? And how big was the bid?

This will all be sorted around 9 o'clock.

[nicko]

No I'm still waiting for David Bentley to sign that new contract as you claimed would happen fifty times

Oh come on nicko you love me really

Bentley was happy to stay until his head was turned. Why else were your club offering him a new contract for so long and, quite rightly, claiming they were making progress on it. They were.

As for point two...I think you know the answer to that.

just one thing... If arsenal have made a huge bid, why do start say they have no received any bid? And how big was the bid?

This will all be sorted around 9 o'clock.

There IS a club who have made a large bid...but it's neither Rovers nor Arsenal.

And I hope you're right about 9 o'clock.

It's starting to bore me rigid.

[G Somerset Rover]

I'm still waiting for the club to address our lack of pace in the side. First Hughes and now seemingly Ince have neglected this attribute. What we need beside RSC is somebody to get in behind defences and cause problems. Zigic should be a big (no pun intended) no no.

[my_name_is_Earl]

I can understand a 'sifting through' process - and you do need to be sure about deals - but if it happens too often then players will be wary of dealing with the club.

It's not a lack of communication. But a bit of lack of respect.

Yeah, I agree about the respect part. I think when players are offered trials, they need to know exactly what is going on with regrads to the length of their trials and the possible outcomes.

It seems naive of Ince or whomever may be conducting these deals to think they can change agreements as and when they choose. There is nothing wrong with turning a player down after a trial but surely they could establish the whole thing much more accurately from the start. I'm getting a little concerned that Ince's ego may be behind this although that is only speculation of course.

[AndyC]

Castillo came over, thinking he was signing and then found out it was a trial. He was basically turned down after a couple of days.

Annan came over, thought he was joining and then was offered a loan after three days.

I can understand a 'sifting through' process - and you do need to be sure about deals - but if it happens too often then players will be wary of dealing with the club.

It's not a lack of communication. But a bit of lack of respect.

lack of respect? please. we all know rovers are one of the best clubs with regards to conducting business.

frankly, if a couple of agents have been spinning a story to you alan, its your choice if you want to believe them.

in any case, even if he did think he was coming and then the club changed their minds - they are perfectly within their rights to do so.

i'm very pleased to hear we are being cautious with our money. we can't afford to waste a single penny.

[Bobby G]

Nicko is it your understanding that Annan no longer interests us, or is there a chance that we will bid once we realize others are doing the same, even though he may turn us down anyway.