cletus Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 I had an interesting conversation with a lady today, who asked me "how many mosques i think there are in Blackburn?" I said 15-20.....no 25.......no 35.......no The lady told me that there are 1500 'registered' mosques in Blackburn. I told her i thought it was rubbish, but she went on to tell me that Blackburn with Darwen Council have 1500 registered mosques within the borough. (she said this is from a council source) "There`s obviously a catch?" i asked. "yes there is" replied the woman "if you convert a room into a prayer room, you can register it as a mini mosque......thus enabling you to claim council tax reduction on the property". She says a lot of the properties pay nearly zero council tax because of this loop-hole. So...... 1...Does anybody know if this is true? 2...if so, can any religion convert a room? 3...how easy is it to claim a council tax reduction for this?
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Billy Castell Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 So that explains the much maligned multi-faith prayer room thing at Ewood Park. I wonder if there is the same tax break if you have a room as a chapel, mini-synagogue and so on? However, is this not discrimination against athiests? What would they have? A study I guess, or an extra empty room.
Grabbi Graeme Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 So how long before this thread is closed then, any bet's on who is gonna start the argument's
stuwilky Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 A building has to be formally registered as a place of worship in order to get any kind of exemption or reduction. the building must also be primarily used for religious worship. Has to go through the Registrar General and then the Valuations Office. No idea on the figures, but suspect them to be wildly exaggerated - information could probably be obtained under Freedom of Information Act.
cletus Posted June 24, 2009 Author Posted June 24, 2009 So that explains the much maligned multi-faith prayer room thing at Ewood Park. I wonder if there is the same tax break if you have a room as a chapel, mini-synagogue and so on? However, is this not discrimination against athiests? What would they have? A study I guess, or an extra empty room. I wonder if i could register the Tugay shrine in my back bedroom?
tashor Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 At this very moment there are about seven mosques in my bathroom - the lights seem to attract them for some reason.............
Guest Kamy100 Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 I will ask the council and see what they say, I think that they also have to register with the Lancashire Council Of Mosques so will ask them as well, I doubt that there are 1500 registered mosques in Blackburn.
colin Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 "if you convert a room into a prayer room, you can register it as a mini mosque Is that a new type of car?
Drummer Boy Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 So how long before this thread is closed then, any bet's on who is gonna start the argument's Don't know but I'm waiting for the usual suspects to weigh in with the usual arguments followed up by frenzied bouts of grammatical correcting and "being clever" just before it descends into personal abuse and the Mods shut the thread or ban a couple of members for a while whereupon we enter into a thread around freedom of speech which no doubt will also then be dragged into another attempt to reopen the subject of race, religion, cultural differentiation or all three as part of the pursuit of freedom of speech and not expression of intolerance in any way, shape or form. I actually wonder whether this aspect of an otherwise healthy MB puts new and/or existing members off participating thereby making the MB more introspective Look forward to being proved wrong, but ..............................
thenodrog Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 Here you go drummer. I make no comment to suit your opinion except that I do think this list needs updating as more have sprung up recently and also rem this is only those actually affiliated to the LCoM........ http://www.lancashiremosques.com/mosque_directory.asp btw This is a must!....... Make sure that you check other Lanky towns for comparison to see the reason for the issues that many of the residents of Blackburn have. It provides an overwhelming and shocking experience and for all the wrong reasons.
JAL Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 I had an interesting conversation with a lady today, who asked me "how many mosques i think there are in Blackburn?" I said 15-20.....no 25.......no 35.......no The lady told me that there are 1500 'registered' mosques in Blackburn. I told her i thought it was rubbish, but she went on to tell me that Blackburn with Darwen Council have 1500 registered mosques within the borough. (she said this is from a council source) "There`s obviously a catch?" i asked. "yes there is" replied the woman "if you convert a room into a prayer room, you can register it as a mini mosque......thus enabling you to claim council tax reduction on the property". She says a lot of the properties pay nearly zero council tax because of this loop-hole. So...... 1...Does anybody know if this is true? 2...if so, can any religion convert a room? 3...how easy is it to claim a council tax reduction for this? Completely untrue, there maybe some extra houses converted into madrases(spelling) were a house is converted into a prayer room and muslim teachings are permitted but no one is allowed to live on these premises - there might be around 40 plus of such places of prayer and worship . The lady is misinformed.
deryck guyler's spoon Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Here you go drummer. I make no comment to suit your opinion except that I do think this list needs updating as more have sprung up recently and also rem this is only those actually affiliated to the LCoM........ http://www.lancashiremosques.com/mosque_directory.asp btw This is a must!....... Make sure that you check other Lanky towns for comparison to see the reason for the issues that many of the residents of Blackburn have. It provides an overwhelming and shocking experience and for all the wrong reasons. Ahh, here he is.
thenodrog Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Ahh, here he is. Ahh, here he is yourself. Whats up dgs? Do you think I made that web site up? I suggest that you contact the LCM yourself for an accurate and current update rather than sniping with pointless and immature little insinuations. In the meantime either don't shoot the messenger please just cos you have nothing of value to bring to the debate, or keep your head where it is. So how long before this thread is closed then, any bet's on who is gonna start the argument's The issue is not about the spread of Islam as about the council tax situation graeme.
JAL Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Ive never been in a mosque in my life been inside many a Roman catholic church, many a Church of England church yet never a mosque and here in Blackburn we are rich with so many. Maybe more of us should enter a mosque then any barriers would be broken down and acceptance of anothers faith would be that little bit easier to accept and sit comfortably with.
Anti-Dingle-Brigade Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Ive never been in a mosque in my life been inside many a Roman catholic church, many a Church of England church yet never a mosque and here in Blackburn we are rich with so many. Maybe more of us should enter a mosque then any barriers would be broken down and acceptance of anothers faith would be that little bit easier to accept and sit comfortably with. You can go in if you want, just ask nicely and obey their rules and traditions.
JAL Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 You can go in if you want, just ask nicely and obey their rules and traditions. I dont mean at prayer time.
yoda Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Ive never been in a mosque in my life been inside many a Roman catholic church, many a Church of England church yet never a mosque and here in Blackburn we are rich with so many. Maybe more of us should enter a mosque then any barriers would be broken down and acceptance of anothers faith would be that little bit easier to accept and sit comfortably with. and life could become like this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8147329.stm
Flopsy Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 not in this country. Still I see no mention of this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8144154.stm which gets worse when you find out the security guards who were supposed to be protecting her, then shot her husband as he went to help her.
JAL Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 and life could become like this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8147329.stm Come on Yoda ! Your poluting the small minded with that kind of insinuation.
yoda Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Come on Yoda ! Your poluting the small minded with that kind of insinuation. theres' a lot of it about, as with flopsy's post all because of extreme outdated religous views
dave birch Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 theres' a lot of it about, as with flopsy's post all because of extreme outdated religous views maybe, yoda, you should hot foot it back to China, where they are gleefully looking after their own .
yoda Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 maybe, yoda, you should hot foot it back to China, where they are gleefully looking after their own . I have no doubt that the Han will sort that problem out
BiggusLaddus Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I have no doubt that the Han will sort that problem out So you back the unwanted immigrants in that case then?
dave birch Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 So you back the unwanted immigrants in that case then? ummmm.
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