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With 8 home matches now confirmed for Saturday up to Xmas be interesting to see how many would buy a package for those for say £160 for all 8 (Riverside). I’d be tempted, can’t do evening or Sunday lunch kickoffs because of trains so never even consider a season ticket now. 

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Package ticket deals never seem to work here in fact nothing does except proven initiatives like cheaper ST's ( not discount 20 quid for a few weeks) And selected cheaper odd match deals like Watford a few years ago.

There's no point in even debating these things the only proof needed is look at the past, look a few miles up the road to Preston and Bolton.

Did they ponce about like these lot or did they actually do something and pull back in thousands more regulars despite a slight hit to the income initially ?

Why couldn't they do that at Rovers when they've guaranteed 40 million of sales recently !

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I’m amazed we sold this many given the clown show at Ewood.

They are extremely fortunate Ismael picked up some results towards the end of the season as that roped a lot back in including myself.

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30 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Package ticket deals never seem to work here in fact nothing does except proven initiatives like cheaper ST's ( not discount 20 quid for a few weeks) And selected cheaper odd match deals like Watford a few years ago.

There's no point in even debating these things the only proof needed is look at the past, look a few miles up the road to Preston and Bolton.

Did they ponce about like these lot or did they actually do something and pull back in thousands more regulars despite a slight hit to the income initially ?

Why couldn't they do that at Rovers when they've guaranteed 40 million of sales recently !

When you are struggling for paying customers you should try anything. Especially right now with how clear it is kick off times are putting people off.  Don’t think you are understanding my point at all, covers August, September, October, November and December - fair enough if you regard that as a “few weeks”. 

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Is it clear that it is kick off times that are actually putting folk off? By the time they go off sale in September we’ll be around last figures total. The main reason we will be down at all (couple of hundred probably) is more the debacle around March time as they went on sale (as roverblue alludes to), plus whacking them up 50 quid.

We’ll see across the Championship this season if ST and match day ticket sales are actually down. Maybe they will be a bit, maybe they won’t at all. If not, the clubs have got away with their greed as the fans have just taken it and opened their collective wallets regardless.

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15 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Is it clear that it is kick off times that are actually putting folk off? By the time they go off sale in September we’ll be around last figures total. The main reason we will be down at all (couple of hundred probably) is more the debacle around March time as they went on sale (as roverblue alludes to), plus whacking them up 50 quid.

We’ll see across the Championship this season if ST and match day ticket sales are actually down. Maybe they will be a bit, maybe they won’t at all. If not, the clubs have got away with their greed as the fans have just taken it and opened their collective wallets regardless.

To me I think it is, know of many (across EFL Clubs) who haven’t bothered this season because of many being moved on weekends, I don’t mind 12:30 Saturdays myself but quite a few do. Obviously everyone knows their situation before any fixtures are set in relation to midweek matches so you can’t use that as an argument but say a few had been Friday nights or Sunday noons instead of Saturdays then I would have been ruled out of attending - makes buying a season ticket even more of a risk, now at least till Jan I know what I can make (one benefit of the new tv deal). Clubs struggling to shift them should try and capitalise on this - not asking for pro rata price for 8 matches by the way (meaning £299 or even £439 split by 23 x 8 for Riverside for example) but try and encourage those who can only make Saturday matches. It’s easy to get out the habit of going, especially when you dislike the owners and have to travel a decent distance. 

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End of the day the proof of the pudding will be ST sales (and attendances in general) across the division.

My gut feel is the clubs have got away with it.

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2 hours ago, CA1Rover said:

With 8 home matches now confirmed for Saturday up to Xmas be interesting to see how many would buy a package for those for say £160 for all 8 (Riverside). I’d be tempted, can’t do evening or Sunday lunch kickoffs because of trains so never even consider a season ticket now. 

I am in the same situation.

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34 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

End of the day the proof of the pudding will be ST sales (and attendances in general) across the division.

My gut feel is the clubs have got away with it.


Yeah that is true. I would like to see the actual attendance announced though, as in people through the gates - covers up the truth a bit. Also I know a fair few who have moved to the Riverside at £299 from JWU simply as it was the cheapest option, a few actually only did it on the last day of sales at that price having been very close to not buying one full stop. 

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1 hour ago, CA1Rover said:

When you are struggling for paying customers you should try anything. Especially right now with how clear it is kick off times are putting people off.  Don’t think you are understanding my point at all, covers August, September, October, November and December - fair enough if you regard that as a “few weeks”. 

The £20 discount for a 'few weeks' was clearly in regard to the early bird Season Ticket.

As for the rest i understand your point entirely but stand by my response, it doesn't work to any noticeable degree unfortunately. Yes it would be great for some who intend to attend all these matches but from the clubs point of view it's cutting off it's nose to spite it's face as most of those who want to go will go anyway and just pay full whack.

If it could pull hundreds extra in per game it would make sense but it just pisses off season ticket holders most of whom have had price rises.

They certainly should try and come up with something though we'll agree on that there are set to be some shocking turnouts and in some cases the away followings will be impacted as well.

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I think the official attendance figures will still tell the story as fans will have had to have made an actual decision to buy one this summer on the back of last season’s ridiculous number of moves - if they still have, but don’t come to half 12 KOs, so what? The clubs would say, money in the bank from you and Sky, ta very much.

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4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

I think the official attendance figures will still tell the story as fans will have had to have made an actual decision to buy one this summer on the back of last season’s ridiculous number of moves - if they still have, but don’t come to half 12 KOs, so what? The clubs would say, money in the bank from you and Sky, ta very much.


Atmosphere should be better, more sales of booze and food are what I would point to. Lot of variables - far from as simple as one size fits all to me. 

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15 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

The fans’ forum minutes for the meeting of 22nd July last year quotes the figure as ‘just over 8,900’.

The minutes for the meeting of 16th September (the day tickets went off sale) has the total at 9,141.

I was going on what I read in the LT, if those figures are correct, it could be something like last seasons average. Hopefully higher if we have a decent season.

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11 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

I think the official attendance figures will still tell the story as fans will have had to have made an actual decision to buy one this summer on the back of last season’s ridiculous number of moves - if they still have, but don’t come to half 12 KOs, so what? The clubs would say, money in the bank from you and Sky, ta very much.

At barely 9k ST's they need three thousand walk ups to just hit the hardcore 12k figure before away fans and i can see that being a tricky ask beyond the first game unless the form is good.

12.30 kick offs are the pits.

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10 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

The £20 discount for a 'few weeks' was clearly in regard to the early bird Season Ticket.

As for the rest i understand your point entirely but stand by my response, it doesn't work to any noticeable degree unfortunately. Yes it would be great for some who intend to attend all these matches but from the clubs point of view it's cutting off it's nose to spite it's face as most of those who want to go will go anyway and just pay full whack.

If it could pull hundreds extra in per game it would make sense but it just pisses off season ticket holders most of whom have had price rises.

They certainly should try and come up with something though we'll agree on that there are set to be some shocking turnouts and in some cases the away followings will be impacted as well.

Fair enough, I read that the other way! My cock up.

Like I say they should be encouraging folk and do it as a long term plan. To me it’s a great opportunity to try something now there are 8 Saturday matches set in stone to work with, to counteract season ticket holders being annoyed I wouldn’t give any entitlement to away ticket purchase etc. Maybe there’ll be some flexi card thing again. 

Anyway we all know the score with it all now, most of the negatives stem from tv ultimately as well as the obvious. 

 

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10 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

"SW stated that the club had currently sold almost 18,000 season tickets, compared to a total of 14,000 for last season, which included half season ticket sales. This represented a 30%increase, with sales still expected to continue for a while. This was an excellent response to price reductions.

 

When our Club was run by responsible people who gave a damn...seems a long time ago now😟

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45 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

At barely 9k ST's they need three thousand walk ups to just hit the hardcore 12k figure before away fans and i can see that being a tricky ask beyond the first game unless the form is good.

12.30 kick offs are the pits.

I think the walk ups will be well down this Season,again, putting the prices up and we cut our own throats.

 

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13 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

What a club we had… and could again if they just. fucked. off.

We held the Whip Hand on ALL the Lancashire Town Clubs,no one could touch us,we were in pole position.

Now..we cant compete with fookin Preston and Div1 Bolton on ST sales and Gates.

FFS!!

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4 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

We held the Whip Hand on ALL the Lancashire Town Clubs,no one could touch us,we were in pole position.

Now..we cant compete with fookin Preston and Div1 Bolton on ST sales and Gates.

FFS!!

I dont think we were ruthless enough in mopping up all the support in the region when we won the Prem.

Then again, no matter what figure we'd got to, we'd have lost most of it again over the last 15 years.

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I think we were planning to, on the way to, then the ‘99 relegation happened and we never quite recovered - plus the other Lancs town clubs started to improve from their third/fourth division berths.

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