v Watford (a) - 13/9/25

[Tom]

TAKECOPTER!

[KentExile]

30 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I think, when you do a deal that is a loan with an option to buy, that the permanent contract has to be done at the time of the deal? Otherwise it would just go down as straight loan deal.

Ismael did say in his interview on the transfer window that the two loans didn't really feel like loans because we have the option to make them our player at any time.

 

The permanent contract has to be agreed at the same time as the loan deal, yes, but there is nothing stopping Rovers from having the option of a permanent deal to take over his £20K ish per week deal and then simply not doing so... unless he randomly makes 20 odd goal contributions over the season and it makes sense to do so

Edited yesterday at 08:30 by KentExile

[MarkBRFC]

5 minutes ago, KentExile said:

The permanent contract has to be agreed at the same time as the loan deal, yes, but there is nothing stopping Rovers from having the option of a permanent deal to take over his £20K ish per week deal and then simply not doing so... unless he randomly makes 20 odd goal contributions over the season and it makes sense to do so

Yeah I suppose it's easy to agree to a 3/4 year deal of 20k a week when you don't have to actually commit to it after the loan ends.

I'd like to think they would have negotiated something realistic in case he does turn out to be a good one so we can trigger it at any time, but then I remember who's in charge.

[KentExile]

4 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Yeah I suppose it's easy to agree to a 3/4 year deal of 20k a week when you don't have to actually commit to it after the loan ends.

I'd like to think they would have negotiated something realistic in case he does turn out to be a good one so we can trigger it at any time, but then I remember who's in charge.

I think the likelihood is that they will have made a deal that they could stretch to if he has a real break out season and becomes a key player (which would probably also see Cantwell who will only have 1 year left next summer, departing to fund his salary)

However, the most probable eventuality is that he is useful cover for a season, and then his loan ends and he returns to Birmingham in the summer

 

[DackDackGoose]

Tavares is a big weak link in this team. I'm not seeing what he will offer.

Is he better off the ball than I'm seeing? As I'd put a youth player in ahead of what I've seen so far..

Would drop cantwell to cm personally to pull the strings (and cant be worse than tavares in a tackle) and get gudjohnson shoehorned in, he looks a player so far. Excited to see a full debut.

[Tom]

I’d not move Cantwell as he’s been brilliant on the whole this season, potentially nullifying that is a risk 

[MarkBRFC]

I think Cantwell can drop deeper from time to time but you don't want to move him unless you absolutely have to.

As said on the other thread Gardner-Hickman would be getting a run for me instead of Sid.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

I think Cantwell can drop deeper from time to time but you don't want to move him unless you absolutely have to.

As said on the other thread Gardner-Hickman would be getting a run for me instead of Sid.

I think then we’d be back to having two defensive midfield players who rarely contribute anything in the last third of the pitch. I thought the idea of signing Tavares and the lad who’s got a foot problem at the moment was to get one of the central midfield players to get forward more and join in with attacking play. Granted we haven’t seen a lot of that from Tavares so far.

Edited 5 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[MarkBRFC]

22 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I think then we’d be back to having two defensive midfield players who rarely contribute anything in the last third of the pitch. I thought the idea of signing Tavares and the lad who’s got a foot problem at the moment was to get one of the central midfield players to get forward more and join in with attacking play. Granted we haven’t seen a lot of that from Tavares so far.

To be honest I think Gardner-Hickman is a lot more forward thinking than Taveres looking at his clips for Bristol and Brum.

Sid offers absolutely nothing going forward based on the first few games.