otto man Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 G O T season 5 has detoured from so far from the book it's almost unrecognisable. Granted it's still great viewing, but if you've read the book you'll be disappointed at the direction it's taking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Backroom Tom Posted April 21, 2015 Backroom Share Posted April 21, 2015 They have already said from now the show will take a different path as otherwise they would catch up to the books too quickly. The end point will be the same though. By the way any spoilers in here will result in bans / burning at the stake / banishment etc etc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamy100 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 If you have read the books like I have then the season 5 has veered away from the books, but as Tom says that is down to the fact that they would catch up pretty soon if they didn't. Still great viewing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 G O T season 5 has detoured from so far from the book it's almost unrecognisable. Granted it's still great viewing, but if you've read the book you'll be disappointed at the direction it's taking. I've been disappointed in the show's direction since Season 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto man Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I've been disappointed in the show's direction since Season 2. Yeah they've tinkered quite a lot. but that's to be expected to a degree I suppose when you adapt a book for the screen, but I "acquired" the first four episodes of season 5 and was gobsmacked at the changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Where are the Greyjoys?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davulsukur Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Last time I saw Theon, he was not in a great way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 He's no Greyjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Yeah they've tinkered quite a lot. but that's to be expected to a degree I suppose when you adapt a book for the screen, but I "acquired" the first four episodes of season 5 and was gobsmacked at the changes. Obviously there are changes due to budget/time constraints but the pointless plot/character changes are the reason I gave up watching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABBEY Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 How good was poldark !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 How good was poldark !!!!Most disappointing thing about the remake was Demelza. Not a patch on the original actress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABBEY Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 EEEEE I DONT KNOW SHE WERE A GOOD UN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Mike E Posted May 29, 2015 Backroom Share Posted May 29, 2015 TYRION IS A TARGARYEN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 TYRION IS A TARGARYEN!!! Wait, whut? Did this show reach new levels of stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Mike E Posted May 29, 2015 Backroom Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) Wait, whut? Did this show reach new levels of stupid? Just a fan theory, but a pretty long-winded one. I'd wondered it after reading 'The World of Ice and Fire' book and now it's become a reasonable theory.http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/its-raining-in-castamere I disagree re: stupidity of the show. Enjoyed the books and enjoy the show. Edited May 29, 2015 by Mike Ellison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Just a fan theory, but a pretty long-winded one. I'd wondered it after reading 'The World of Ice and Fire' book and now it's become a reasonable theory. http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/its-raining-in-castamere I disagree re: stupidity of the show. Enjoyed the books and enjoy the show. It's a lame theory, in the fact the whole 'Secret Targ' thing has become a running joke within the fanbase. The cruel irony of Tyrion is that he's actually more like Tywin than either of his two siblings. The show's been gradually on the slide since Season 2. Now they're running out of book material to work from we're seeing the limits of their writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted May 29, 2015 Author Moderation Lead Share Posted May 29, 2015 I believe George RR Martin has given HBO the ending just in case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Mike E Posted May 29, 2015 Backroom Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) It's a lame theory, in the fact the whole 'Secret Targ' thing has become a running joke within the fanbase. The cruel irony of Tyrion is that he's actually more like Tywin than either of his two siblings. The show's been gradually on the slide since Season 2. Now they're running out of book material to work from we're seeing the limits of their writing. That link misses a Targaryen birth (or was it stillbirth?) of a girl born with a tail.Tyrion was also said to have been born with a tail. He was also born within a year of the only time Aerys and Joanne could feasibly have been in each other's vicinity. It's just a fun theory imo. Some say it devalues the relationship between Tyrion and Tywin, but I think it would add another dimension (if it's even true ofc). Isn't the irony deepened if it turns out he isn't even a Lannister? Edited May 29, 2015 by Mike Ellison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) Isn't the irony deepened if it turns out he isn't even a Lannister? Of course it isn't, it's the complete opposite. Tywin has spent most of his life resenting Tyrion and telling him he's illegitimate because of his dwarfism. If it turns out Tywin was actually right all along and Tyrion wasn't his son, the irony is lost. We already have one 'Secret Targ' at the centre of the plot, GRRM wouldn't be hackneyed enough to include another. Edited May 29, 2015 by Amarillo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Mike E Posted May 29, 2015 Backroom Share Posted May 29, 2015 Of course it isn't, it's the complete opposite. Tywin has spent most of his life resenting Tyrion and telling him he's illegitimate because of his dwarfism. If it turns out Tywin was actually right all along and Tyrion wasn't his son, the irony is lost. We already have one 'Secret Targ' at the centre of the plot, GRRM wouldn't be hackneyed enough to include another. It would mean that despite his hatred of an illegitimate son, he kept him around for political value. Tyrion was everything that Tywin wanted in his son. But instead of dwarfism being the reason hate him, it's the fact he ACTUALLY wasn't his, but Tyrion still picked up all Tywin's traits. For me it humanises Tywin and makes him more of an anti-hero than outright villain. Yet again, just like Tyrion. I'm not particularly bothered if it turns out not to be the case, but it's interesting to discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 It would mean that despite his hatred of an illegitimate son, he kept him around for political value. Tyrion was everything that Tywin wanted in his son. But instead of dwarfism being the reason hate him, it's the fact he ACTUALLY wasn't his, but Tyrion still picked up all Tywin's traits. It's unnecessary, though, because we already know that it was the social stigma of Tyrion's dwarfism and the death of Joanna Lannister giving birth to him. If not for one, or both, of these things then Tywin probably would've accepted him as his true-born son. For me it humanises Tywin and makes him more of an anti-hero than outright villain. Yet again, just like Tyrion. Why on earth would we want that? Tywin is supposed to be a #%!@. Doesn't make him any less complex. You never addressed my second point, either. We already have one Secret Targ plot twist on the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Mike E Posted May 30, 2015 Backroom Share Posted May 30, 2015 It's unnecessary, though, because we already know that it was the social stigma of Tyrion's dwarfism and the death of Joanna Lannister giving birth to him. If not for one, or both, of these things then Tywin probably would've accepted him as his true-born son. Why on earth would we want that? Tywin is supposed to be a #%!@. Doesn't make him any less complex. You never addressed my second point, either. We already have one Secret Targ plot twist on the cards. 'It might happen once, it can't happen twice'...you sure? Even the best writers may reuse ideas. I admit it can sound anti-climatic but at the same time I like the idea. My favourite bonkers theory is that Euron Greyjoy and Daario Naharis are the same person. One of those there's that is so neat and messy at once it's just odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABBEY Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The best series in a long while has finally finished .it will be missed ..TREME 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted May 30, 2015 Author Moderation Lead Share Posted May 30, 2015 Been watching a lot of Brooklyn Nine Nine recently, really funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Hooker Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 the final act of the latest game of thrones ep is something else! I was struggling to stay awake during the 1st half of the episode, I really never expected 'that' to unfold so quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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