Thanks for the reply. I understand that and fully agree with your approach to confidentiality and friendship. I was really getting at is why the club never announced the sale of the training ground. Surely it would be only polite to let the fans know of such an important event rather than it be uncovered as it was. As you mention, you found out from a friend but did the club officials freely offer you this information in your meetings I wonder? Why would they not be open about such things ?

I have been thinking along these lines too but where would this information come from ? Surely Waggott will not be informing supporters of his own demise unless he is retiring by choice. If that is the case, who is to say Venky's will replace him with someone more suitable ? I don't think Lynsey Talbot would pass on this type of information even if she was aware of it. If the assumptions are correct then has the info come from Suhail ? ( and as you say - very unprofessional ) If the assumptions are not correct then it is likely that the alleged changes will be minor or maybe just a change of manager. I do believe that Rev and Roverite have had some information that they trust but it's very frustrating when tidbits are dangled with no supporting evidence while the really important happenings - like developing or selling the training ground - remain under wraps. Is it possibly a case of people being fed the 'Don't worry, we are looking into it and things will improve' type line often seen in the fans forum minutes ?

You're probably right - she has previous! Have we actually heard from her since she made these comments ? November 26 2010 Venky's chairwoman Anuradha Desai: 'We want results and Sam has taken up the challenge. He deserves a chance. To this end, the group have promised manager Allardyce funds to spend in the January transfer window.' December 13 2010 Sam Allardyce sacked. Desai told the Lancashire Telegraph: 'The fans should trust us because this is in the best interests of the club.'

Any comment from the owners yet? If they are told that last night's result made Rovers history they will probably be expecting accolades.

Mission accomplished

I really think the tide will turn now. Why we have put up with the situation for so long is beyond me. Rovers Trust, Ewood Blues, BRAG, all Rovers fans, need to re-energise. Our club is in peril and has been for years,

The idea is that nobody is in the ground - that should send a message all the way to Pune.

The biggest home defeat in 146 years - WOW. To be honest, that result, the body langauge of most of the players and the manager's post match interview are a perfect reflection of the club at this point in time. This has been coming. The club is like someone with massive personal problems who manages to hold down a steady job and kid the world that everything is OK but their family know the real situation. We are mid table but that is just papering over the cracks. We all know how bad it is. It's going to get worse before it gets better. Are any of the out of contract players going to want to stay? Even if we ditch Mowbray, we still have Venky's at the helm. Does the CEO have the best interests of the club at heart? It's like the band playing while the Titanic sank, Nero fiddling while Rome burned, Rovers supporters watching on while the club dies. It's time for fan action. Join the boycott - let the owners know that enough is enough. 11 years of neglect have culminated in the worst result EVER at Ewood. It's time for action. Venky's out. Let them know what we think. RECLAIM THE ROVERS.

You would need to be on Waggott's salary to get that on the back of your Rovers shirt

Buying the land does help with FFP so that is the benefit to the club in the short term. The benefit to Venky's is that any future sale of the club would not necessarily include the STC land - if it looks like a development project is still a possibility. If that is the case, the land is worth much more than they paid for it and they may decide to sell to a developer later ( or sooner given the opportunity). Benefit for Waggott and Co is that if the development project resurfaces then it's out of their hands - he is CEO of Blackburn Rovers and has no say in the land sale as it is owned by a totally separate company. Residents and supporters will have to complain to faceless people in India. All this could be years in the future but I think Venky's are just covering all possibilities in their own favour and also getting some brownie points for avoiding FFP sanctions.

I'm not sure there is a covenant on the STC but there may be on the lower / academy area. Remember there are already detailed plans for 170 houses and an application for planning permission on the STC land. When the original plans were halted Waggott said they would not be following up on the plans 'in their current form'. I doubt they would have done all that prep work if building on the land was not a real possibility. And they also fought the ACV proposal. I'm still worried.

Do we even know where the £16 million has gone? It may not even be recorded as income for the club - it may go to VLL who can actually do what they want with it. Assuming it is income for the club, I don't think there will be any extra cash because this £16 million will be offset against the annual losses and VLL will put in £16 million less than usual. It may help to keep the figures within FFP rules but I doubt it will make a difference to the club budget.

After all this time, you still don't understand other people's points of view or other people's pricnciples. Maybe you just don't want to. Many boycotters attend away matches to support the team and may attend as many matches as you do. The point of boycotting home matches is to show disapproval of the people who are killing the club. What other weapon do we have ? We are all in this together but handle it in different ways. Don't put yourself on a pedestal

This is exactly how it appears to me. The club won't even benfit from any extra cash injection because it just means that some of the losses for next year are already covered so less funds required from VLL. It's all about protecting the one asset that may make Venky's some profit in the future. It may be a short term FFP benefit but Venky's will be doing this for the good of Venky's not for the good of Blackburn Rovers.

And this 90% figure is plucked from where ? Of the 10 or so committed boycotters that I know, all will return the minute they are gone - myself included.

Net result is probably the same financially - it just prevents the need for VLL to pump the £16 million in directly. So the club won't be getting any extra cash - but it may help from a FFP point of view as the cash can be seen as income rather than direct funding. If the whole point of the sale was FFP oriented then why not buy all of Brockhall and utilise the loophole further ? It's seems that option is now gone. I think they want this land to be kept separate from the ownership of the club - how much is it worth with 170 houses on it ? If VLL sell the club they can keep the land. There may be no indication they are selling but they have given themselves more options now. Remember the golden rule - NEVER TRUST A VENKY

Very interesting. MD stated categorically that there would be no transfer funds available for not only the January transfer window but also next summer. As a number of players’ contracts expire this summer it will be challenging for the incumbent manager. MD stated that Vincent Tan is looking to restructure the finances of the club MD emphasised throughout how financially reliant the club are on VT. Sounds familiar - but at least their owners and board communicate with the fans.

Absolutely spot on. I have not been to a home game since Coyle was appoited but I miss Ewood so much. If Ainsworth was appointed I would return. We need someone who loves and understands then club Will Venky's understand my point of view ? No Will Venky's appoint Ainsworth ? No Boycott continues

I think if I was offered a 'Cash Out' on this season I would take it now. I don't think we will finish higher than 13th and it would save the weekly anguish of ruined Saturdays. Happy to jump straight into next season with a new manager. ( I know it's only October but it's already feeling like a dead season )

The comment about 'just getting through the season' rings true. As far as we know Mowbray will leave at the end of the season (no bad thing) so he has no incentive to persuade any of the end-of-contract palyers to stay. I wouldn't be surprised if Waggott leaves when Mowbray does - he's retirement age and made his money. So why worry about the future of the club ? I don't suppose they do. And of course, Venky's won't be losing any sleep over any of this. I will be glad to see the back of Mowbray and Waggott but Crooke is right - this season already looks like a write-off with no consideration of the future. The club is adrift on the waters of neglect.

I did read your words in the Blackpool match thread very carefully. You said that you believed things would improve due to what you had been told. But you didn't give any details at all. Do you still believe things will improve and can you reveal anything yet ?

That is why I am suggesting more people do it. I can't think of any other options other than grin and bear it.

While everyone is still angry why not consider joining the boycott. Maybe an organised boycott of a single home game with protests outside Ewood. We need to show the owners that we are angry and won't put up with the situation any longer.

Current league form is 2 wins in 9 Going back to the start of the death spiral last season ( defeat at QPR in February ) we have played 32 league games and won 8 ( 25% ) and gained 35 points. This includes 2 dead rubber wins when the pressure was off. So at that rate (1.09 points per game), for the last 8 months we have been in the sort of form that could put us perilously close to the bottom 3. 2 wins in the first 3 games this season gave us a bit of breathing space but the overall picture hasn't really changed. I predict a low bottom half finish but we should survive ( fingers crossed )

There is no connection between the club and the community/fans. 11 years of being ignored has not helped. When Venky's leave and we get some enthusiastic owners then many missing fans will return.