There you go - shows the importance of proof reading. Rovers should take note

So people who express concerns about Venky's ownership and are worried about the future of the club while they are in charge are just talking bollox and are really moaning about the quality of current players compared to 30 years ago? Unbelievable statement.

Sympomatic of the way the club operates from top to bottom. No care or attention given to anything. After the very public 'paperwork' cock up in January you would think every single peice of information coming out of the club would be scruitinised very carefully but no, nothing has changed.

I seem to remember ( FF minutes again ) that someone pointed out to Waggott that PNE and Bolton sold far more season tickets than we did for the season just ended and look like doing so again. Waggott's response was that Rovers generated more revenue while selling less tickets. That's his justification and all he cares about - hitting his targets, getting his bonus. Fair pricing, cost of living, better atmosphere, future generations of fans ? water off a duck's back to Waggott. And he sets the prices they way he does because the owners let him and don't care in the slightest. I doubt a single Venky could quote our season ticket prices if asked.

The Morton loan didn't benfit us at all. Elliott was obviously a good player and did well for us but even he wasn't the finished article. I remember when he gave a goal away against Reading by trying to dribble out of defence. The commentator siad 'That's why these young players get loaned out - to get these mistakes out of the way and go back to their parent club a better player" I would much rather our own younsters learned from first team football and then we benfit form their growing experience - not some other club.

They failed to an even greater extent than we did.

He may have been picked 'on merit' but Broughton doesn't actually say there was no clause !

Without googling and searching records for the last 6 or 7 years, I am not sure when Coventry's upturn in fortunes began. Was it when they got rid of despised owners who had little interest in the club and replaced them with someone who cares ? Or was it when they got rid of Steve Waggott ? Either way I think we should follow their example.

Exactly how I felt. During the period that we were firing the goals in and Millwall had wilted, it had the feeling of a friendly match. Any excitement disappeared when Sunderland scored - PNE were never going to do us any favours. I felt nothing but disappointment at the end. The win was totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

I was not really commenting on the Sunderland team or players or even Mowbray's role in getting them into the playoffs. I'm not even debating if he is a good or bad manager. What I was pointing out was that Mowbray seems to have thrived at Sunderland while his last 4 years at Rovers were a non-event and he seemed to have very little enthusiasm for the job. In my opinion it is down to the environment he is working in. Sunderland have belief and ambition and momentum. We have Venky's

But his attitude is totally different. Under no pressure whatsoever at Rovers, he was able to sit back and coast along. Remember the death spirals ? wouldn't have survived anywhere else.

The difference between Mowbray at Sunderland and Mowbray at Rovers is entirely down to the ambition of the two clubs, the way they are run and the fact that the owners give a shit. Venky's out

Every year we get the excuse : 'how can we compete with teams receiving parachute payments ?' When Venky's took over we were in the Premier League and Luton were in the Conference! Proof that a well run club can compete. It's some 'journey' they are taking us on.

I vote ( hope and pray ) for the second option.

Does it matter? We lost

Because they didn't need to. They won.

They could have gone up a gear if they needed to. They did enough to beat us without really being troubled

Does not compute. We never troubled them all night.

Were we ? we didn't create a single chance all night. No point having the ball and doing nothin with it. At any point in the match did you honestly think we were going to win it ?

Exactly. Cold hard facts, it was men against boys ans I can't imagine much improvement next season. The championship this year has been poor and we had a chace to make an impact. The failure in the January window was always going to have an impact. Once again, we are letting valuable players walk away for free at the end of the season. Tonight just highlighted how far behind we are. We are going nowhere with these owners.

results wise we certainly haven't

But what we really needed, and what JDT asked for, was a striker. He didn't even manage to have one lined up come the end of the window.

WWell, we tried but the honest truth is that we were nowhere near the level requried. Never going to score if we played until Christmas and that is due to the season being derailed in January. A decent striker signed in the window would have seen us safe weeks ago. As for Ashley Barnes, I'd have in our team tomorrow - exactly what we've been missing all season.

Must have missed that. We are still a shambles with no effective board and absent, uninterested owners. Nothing changed when Mowbray was here.

We were looking nervous and scared for the last 20 minutes and let them take the game to us rather than try and finish them off. That's where we bottled it - not that one incident in at the end