Well the not working hard piece is easy, obviously people get that from watching him. Is that fair enough? The bad behavior, ya speculation pretty much, but it's not an accusation I have really made. Why has he ended up at Hull on loan with a potential free transfer in the summer if he is so good? Surely a team chasing promotion would have gone for him? Why do you think that is?

We owe them one after earlier in the season. Will be a very different game for them than last night. We can certainly win it.

I would say there is reverse revisionism too. For example if @chaddyrovers was saying Maddison would have been a great signing, I have a sneaky feeling some of you would be making the exact same points I am now to counteract him.

Of course not , if he got worse it would be though , wouldn't it, eh

They replaced their keeper coach at Xmas. https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2019/december/goalkeeper-coach-update-20191224/ How do you know so much about the new coach?

It's a given, but not all players do it

Of course, supporters like yourself will always give other clubs the benefit of the doubt. Even when the evidence contradicts it. Raya must have surpassed Walton for clangers this season at this stage. I suppose it's probably Mowbrays fault.

So the chairman's word isn't good enough for you? Mmm, ok then. I think you are the one refusing to acknowledge the issues. The fact he has ended up at Hull is telling. It was being made out he was a super player, I am sure if he sets the world alight at Hull, a few will be back on pointing out we should have signed him, Mowbray messed up etc etc. As things stand, he doesn't look anything .Unproven at this level and joining a club in free fall, not even a promotion chasing side. Very, very telling.

Debatable. Depends on his application. Bennett and Gallagher work very hard. If Maddison wouldn't match that output, plus the step up means he wouldn't have the goals or assists, then he wouldn't be much use. He is unproven at this level.

Now can someone please go to Brockhall and wrap our back 5 in cotton wool.

And we think we had a bad window. It does put perspective on it. They have basically written their season off. Could get dragged into relegation very easily. I can see Stoke rising and Wigan showing some fight. I wonder what use MM would be in a relegation scrap.

"Easily" get into our side due to his "track record" steady on man. We aren't talking about Messi here. A better than average 26 year old league 1 player who has ended up at a dreadful Hull side.

With the interest in him we were lead to believe there was from some on here it's interesting that he has ended up at Hull.

Progress!

Will be some boost to have Rothwell, JRC and Gallagher back together. I agree the logical sub is Gallagher for Graham. Let Gallagher and Armstrong form some sort of partnership. Samuel and Brereton as sub options then.

Ha ha, imagine the scenes if he buried one to make it 4-0

Did he beat Bell repeatedly? Ya, I don't get people booing Maddison , because we were never really that interested. As for Bauer, well he straight up picked PNE so whilst I wouldn't do it myself, at least it makes a bit more sense. As for Maddison, did you not expect him to move to a better club? I recall you mentioning WBA. The way Hull look, he could be back in League 1 next season.

I would imagine some Newcastle fans are pretty jealous. No doubt they would take him over Atsu all day.

100%. I agree with all that.

You have certainly gotten more predictions wrong that right this season. Not many bottles of red for you!

Jesus, don't be giving Tony ideas.

No, I agree most fans are really supportive and want him to do well, I just suspect some who are "on the fence" when it comes to booing or cheering would quickly move to the booing of him if we were behind or lost. The support is great and it's what he needs. Has there ever been a player the majority wanted to succeed more?

So what did people make of Maddison? He was being built up as a must sign player by some for the last 2 years.

This is true, but I think us winning negates the negativity he might have received otherwise. Everything appears rosier after a victory.

For sure, but if he keeps going he could score as many if not more than Dack did last season. I wonder does he feel more freedom with Dack out, because imagine if the 2 of them were flying on all cylinders.