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Sadly, that fan has died. Agree with all the stuff on the waterlogged pitch/Vs etc. Just on a different tack and the game. How on earth did they not score in the first minute of the second half? (Good save from Pears but their player should have squared it for a tap in.) And more generally, why didn't either side just get the ball in from corners -woeful.

Nobody is denying it. Read the laws.

Ref by robot soon? 😉

Do cup games count? Is it 45 + 3?

Yep plus they know the crap that refs have to deal with-not worth it.

Most amusing. IE not going to happen.

Agreed. But (and absolutely no disrespect here) I am not aware of any players of the top 2 divisions who became refs. Probaly wrong -not sure.

Curious given that RG stated that promotion wasn't really on the agenda.

Ray Tinkler? Keith Burge?

Nearly spat out my afternoon cucumber sandwiches 😉

This idea that reffing was better in the past is curious. Pundits, managers, fans have always moaned about decisions. VAR was introduced because of all the technology available to fans in the ground and on TV. It was easy to instantly see if a mistake was made. So VAR is an attempt to protect refs from making mistakes we can all see. Of course, we all know that VAR may help in some instances but can make things even more difficult. Ever watched a replay loads of times (as experts do in TV studios) and still not sure? Someone has to make the call. It was the Thierry Henry handball that tipped us into VAR. Perhaps we should have VAR in our league 😉 Wouldn’t that be fun? Would we have got a pen last night? I get the laugh and joke refs of previous generations who had leeway and a ‘feel’ for the game. But they made crap decisions too and had favourites. Bryan Robson cleaning out opponents, injuring himself in the tackle only for the ref to waddle over and ask ‘Are you ok Bryan?’ We could go back to that, but I guarantee that there will still be an outcry up and down the land at ‘outrageous decisions’ given by refs. I get the fact that reffing has become somewhat robotic or officious. But then, if refs started doing their own thing more, you can bet the ‘consistency’ word would crop up repeatedly. Not suggesting all is hunky dory but after each initiative protests still occur. Incidentally, just to make the blood boil, possibility of VAR for corners and yellow cards. Throw ins next? 😉 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62lgler7rlo Maybe we should have a reffing thread. Could be lively.

As to Ismael’s list. Dear, oh dear. Straight out of central office. I wonder how long it has been ready to go for massive deflection purposes. Smells like those ‘communications’ put out about minutes or why players leave or why we can’t get certain players or why it’s the fans’ fault. Victim culture, deflection of blame, excuses.

It was a corner imo. But refs after acouple of tussels in the corner usually just give a goalkick just to stop the aggro. Not saying it is right. And so, how is it that from right in their corner we concede? Perhaps more of a pressing issue.

For the record, I would have given a pen and thought so in the ground despite the 4 criteria but not as clear cut as many mention. As to bias against Rovers -well...like your posts Ghost but think you are paranoid here (but then there will be shedloads of fans at other clubs who think the same -so the refs must be biased against everybody.?😉

You would but others on here? 😉 Nice to see we finally got round to DOGSO rather than 'last man' which is mentioned nowhere in the rules. (I knew the answer to my question Kidder.) 😉 Nice to see Miller get away with a clear yellow early on.

Can anyone tell me which rule talks about red cards and last man?

Home form. All games = 9 games, 7 losses, 1 win, 1 draw (includes 1 cup game). League = 8 games, 6 losses, 1 win, 1 draw = 4 points out of 24.

Subjunctives, moi? 😉

Intriguing. I thought lower leagues and amateur football was struggling to get refs due to mindless violence and aggro which is just not worth it.

Thanks for the reply arbitro. Just on the point above, you hear that a lot (and I'm not necessarily disagreeing). But wasn't that an issue because too many mistake were being made? So, handballs missed, offsides incorrect and so on. Thus VAR introduced. Now of course, VAR is 'ruining the game' and why can't we go back to letting referees referee? 🙂 So it would seem, whatever we do, chunnering up and down the land will occur. 🙂

Keira Walsh captaining the England team.

Respect your opinion on all such matters but disagree. (Not that it matters now anyway -plus we had plenty of chance to set up and defend it.) In the box, barge in the back, penalty -most certainly in the prem. Agree, that in the Championship you generally have to kill someone first. Also, reverse it. So, defender running towards his own goal line, often trying to shepherd the ball out for a goalkick, forward touches defender slightly from behind, never mind barges him in the back, ref/lino gives free kick all day long. Such an easy decision for the lino to give in this instance. Hedges doesn't touch the ball until after the shove -I could understand if he is making a 'brusque' tackle with his feet - he isn't -he is running towards his own goal, shoves attacker more in the back than shoulder and then collects the ball. Attacker falls over and says thanks very much. Anyway, all done and dusted. All about opinions. Perhaps more interesting/galling is the victim mentality that is emerging and being offered as an excuse, along with the home crowd deficiency narrative. As an aside, it would be interesting to know if you have any solutions to the refereeing ‘crisis’ that is regularly cited by many fans in social media, on the terraces and by football pundits.

Victim.

I thought we knew. Too expensive and need to sell. Tainted by team Eustace. Manager get bonus for appearances of new recruits?

Perhaps tangentially but on tinpot clubs v ‘pedigree’ clubs. I’m sure many on here have played sport of all kinds at school/local league level. And I’ve seen (from both sides) when a ‘pedigree’ club plays ‘newcomer’/’tinpot’ outfilt. So in cricket, the pedigree club playing against a ‘tinpot club’ away laughs at the crap pitch, the crap pads, the crap tea, the crap scoreboard (if there is one), the crap pavilion (no showers etc). But then the ‘tinpot’ team shows great togetherness on the pitch and roundly defeats the complacency of the ‘pedigree’ club. Or another metaphor springs to mind (sorry, pinot). Rovers are like all those poor post 1st World War 1 officers who can’t get a job but go round with a certain front retaining that aristocratic air but any discerning viewer can see the threadbare uniform, the whiff of decline and lack of capital. Good luck tomorrow lads -I'll be watching. 😉