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Not my point rev and your intransigence on tronstad rivals EI's on refs 😉

Did we come to a conclusion on a how long we had to give it to decide if it was a successful transfer summer? b if it was exciting? c if is going to be successful?

Re VI and honesty. Remember that chat earlier in the season when most praised (how refreshing they said) his honesty for calling out players? Seem to remember suggesting that bollocking should be done in private and got short shrift. He's at it again with Pape. How about a little honesty Val (not to mention a little less arrogance) on your inability to win games?

Summed up the evening for me -best player last season hits a sideways pass which goes straight into touch. Body language says it all.

Just another day in the rollercoaster. You can use this performance as an argument for relegation. Or you can reflect back on performances against Ipswich/Hull and think usual mid to lower half plodding. TBH, I think the league is so poor we will have enough. Interestingly, for the first 15-20, thought we looked ok (if not exciting) and they looked dire -lumberers who were never going to score (their record for scoring not good). Was thinking at that stage how poor the championship really is. But then for 10 mins or so before the first goal on 31 min, they did really well breaking play up in their own third and hitting great long balls which caused us all sorts of trouble (and that was with Wharton playing well). Then the goal (simple free kick to far post, header, goal). After that, we offered nothing. Hedges should have been booked Miller should have had 2 yellows and off Pen wasn’t a pen Pickering could have been booked late on Don’t think there is anyone on our side who can take a strike like their 2nd? We had one shot on target? Ohashi –who some say is crap (not me). Meanwhile Gaye, offside again. Gud (who some think should start) –first 2 touches lost it, overpowered in midfield, offered little. Rovers crossing (mainly Cantwell) poor. Disjointed overall, not sure what the plan was. To be fair to Gud and Gaye, if you are going to play them, then you have to give them time and play to their strengths with good crosses. Gardner Hickman is a utility player who can plug gaps (but not right back). Pointless berating him. Why not bring on McLoughlin and move Miller to RB? Incidentally, he looked like a second rate Scottish player. Tronstad disinterested? Indeed. Wonder why that is? Counting down the days to escape the Stasi and shitshow. Cantwell was looking for fouls that MAY have been given in the prem but was poor in a game like this. Charlton were rudimentary but nothing untoward –blaming the ref (as per) is just nonsense. Don’t know about you, but I’m a bit sick of these journey men on easy street who haven’t delivered anything for years. Time to move them on and bring in fresh, hungry players (irony just to be clear). I do hope EJ delivers an uncompromising report.

Was it the weather or the penny-pinching tools in charge?

Yep, it's getting really bad when you are looking back at a ducker and diver (Del Boy/Arthur Daley) with a certain amount of fondness (did i just say that) as opposed to an egotistical, childish, vindictive, underqualified, stasi like....etc etc

No it doesn't. A club should move forward season on season. If you have a huge clearout, then what you bring in should achieve at least what you have done previously.

I do hope EJ is there and reporting.

Mike joking?

There's always a new low just around the corner.

Grubby, thin-skinned, paranoid, pathetic, childish, dictatorial, weak, scared, stupid, dumb, classless, infantile, shabby, totalitarian, oppressive, arrogant, despotic….etc Putin, Trump, Modi, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong-un would be proud.

It wouldn't have done -they have a proper pitch.

Shrunk in the rain? 😉

In society in general. Anybody's fault but mine.

I took it a different way. Just another example of the farce that is Rovers -the players clearly knew, so why weren't the freezing cold fans told quickly in an announcement? And I just thought that their players were praising their fans for giving good support having travelled a long way in crap conditions. Sammy, nice touch from him and the BBE as well.

Hey, when I made that point I was downvoted 🙂 It happened a bit ago no? (Can't remember who we were playing). Arrived at a home game around 2pm to hear announcement on Radio 5 that it was abandoned. Cue Rovers fans, away fans, BBC 5Live all moaning about the ref and late cancellation etc etc.

Curiously, no comment about dreadful championship refs at the time on the thread. Funny that. 🙂

Anybody care to comment on the pen? Live, at the game, I thought there was going to be a booking for a dive. More than happy to be corrected. On the game. Think Mori shoud play up top with Ohashi as they clearly think quickly and understand each other. Cantwell wasted up top -they played a very high line and he is not fast enough to exploit the space behind. Other than that, fairly regulation stuff from either side. 2 chances for them first half (one straight at Toth and one a reasonable save from Hirst). 1 for them right across the face of goal. Ref gave us pretty much everything. No point crying about the abandonment. Correct decision from ref as pitch became unplayable safely. We could certainly argue about what should happen now, but given precendent and the rules, looks like a fully replay. Pasha rubbing hands. Mori has made a big difference and I think Gud will too. Looking at the sides we have played this season, the league certainly seems average/ January/february/injuries will tell the real story I guess. Not been dull so far 🙂

Thought he just ran out of ideas and hoofed it forward hoping poor Ohashi might make something of it.

Should be replayed - refs are always against us. 😉

Then there would be plenty on here moaning about late cancellation, travelling fans etc etc.

Adults in the room finally.

Realism finally.