aletheia

Yawn. There is no incongruence here (unless you childishly try to look for it.) They don't care about the fans (only reducing expenditure). They don't try to make them feel better -they put out publicity/spin to justify their own actions and present their behaviour as the only option available.

So those will be shit terms ergo he is shit?

Again? Patience? Righto, is 15 years enough?

I watched the replay over and over and couldn't decide. Ref has an instant call and no VAR. I thought he defintiely got it wrong in the 1st half -trip on Alebiosu that wasn't (excellent subtle fall by their defender) -but of course Alebiosu didn't score anyway and I think he got his shot off after the ref blew the whistle. All academic now -1-1 would have been fair, but if you can't defend properly...

Could you elaborate further? What is this SBI instrument? (bank?) How much did they borrow? Are you saying that amount is now spent and this is the reason for the dramatic budget cuts? If it is an Indian bank, what are the terms of payback? Can it just go on indefinitely? Who is the borrowing signitory (sic)? Are you suggesting that the only way the Raos leave is if one of i-iii of your list happens?

On NDAs If your break one, what is the come back? Financial? If you break one say because you know you are dying (sorry to be morbid) can any penalisation be passed to your family? What is to stop someone with an NDA using mouthpieces to get the story out -too traceable?

So there does appear to be a great deal of circumstantial (maybe more?) evidence (and this has been around for a long time now) that the teller of fairy stories who has problems with nose picking according to some still has fingers in the pie. All allegedly of course. Could it be that this person and associates have far too much dirt on both the Raos and the EFL that they would not like to come to light, that an ‘understanding’ is in place – we won’t shed any embarrassing light on matters if the revolving door of players is maintained? If this is the case, it begs the question, how long will it continue –how long will this plodding along last? Until one or more of the actors is no longer with us? Until, it is so long the EFL wouldn’t be embarrassed? All allegedly and imho of course.

We're looking into that 😉

Your sophistry is tiresome.

It’s a possibility that certain posters will be more balanced with pronouncements and thinking less dogmatic than Pravda, the Taliban or QAnon. Or that the Raos will develop some football acumen, interest and increase spending, that Pasha will resign, that more money will be spent on players and the fabric of the building, that the astonishing haughty approach to the fans will change or the club will stop falling into decline…whether it happens....

Incidentally, on the corner. ..from my position, it looked like VI definitely urged Tavares to take the corner instead of Ribeiro. (not that it makes a huge difference -plenty of defending needed after that.)

Yes. You don't moan in public about them.

Not in public. You bollock in private. You throw the Raos under the bus.

Sad comment. They could beat WBA though.

I look forward to that… I didn’t want Trav to leave but it’s such a shitshow here, he had to really…. The 30k a week story is a lie to make us look like we tried… I’d like a striker but there’s no chance here with these lunes in charge…. Ditto a winger…. I know like everyone else in football that this club is a joke but I need the money and they will never sack me because they won’t pay up…. The transfer strategy is garbage but I have to publicly say otherwise… I’ve got to play youngsters irrespective of ability to get my bonus and because Rudy says so… Rudy is a knob and everybody here hates him… Rudy is underqualified for his role at this club…. I say what Rudy or Pasha tells me to say…. The squad is threadbare…. I’d like some more experienced players but am not allowed them….

? I'm reading about Rovers getting a beating tomorrow and suddenly it's this theory? Any credence?

I think you imply it in your sentences following this but Gestede does what he is told ie get older (expensive) heads out so we can reduce overall expenditure.......

Conversely:- I agree with most of the posts re the dire situation we find ourselves in (on and off the pitch) but... ...this is footy. Just like Rovers to eke out a win or draw. Cue all the 'new regime' apologists to lord it for a bit -you know how it goes: -time to bed in, new project, totally new personnel etc etc And, although sharing the general gloom (who wouldn't given the last 14 years), 10 games is time for a fair assessment. Venkys out obvs.

Beautiful spouting of club's new narrative.

Sorry, think I have misunderstood. I thought your post in quotation marks was VI -ie gobbledegook. Don't think there has been a post of yours I have disagreed with. 🙂

Jeeze, gobbledegook.

He 'will be turning in his grave' at the lunacy, mendacity and general cluster fu** of the last 14 years.

smiller Between Suhail and Gestede they have now decided that there is no need to pay more than 10k a week for a player with those two as their proof. 11 “A” players on a max of 10k. 11 “B” Players on a max of 6k. And 11 Young players on a max of 1k. Any exceptions will be phased out. So, along with Pasha/RG cementing their authority, the above model, (along with the Rao’s refusal to inject money over and above that which is generated in-house) is not interested in league position? If by a miracle the model leads to promotion, then so be it (but many believe that is actively thwarted due to unwanted scrutiny). If it leads to relegation, then so be it –less scrutiny, media don’t care, revolving door of players can continue creating fees for some, mid-table mediocrity still achievable, fan expectation can be easily managed.

Some informative (eg smiller) and interesting posts of late -thanks. Jackson article? Supine spin from club mouthpiece, economical with the truth, masquerading as reasoned and balanced truth. The king is dead (SWAG), long live the king (Gestede). New autocratic state in place but utilising the same old playbook –even cheaper too. One puppet master (Suhail), one enforcer (G), one compliant manager (VI) Non-compliant or off-piste forces removed (the egg and SWAG) Several shady agents/background bodies still pulling strings (allegedly) Toxic, paranoid work place to create fear and obedience –check Remove expensive players –check Remove expensive staff -check Remove any staff not totally compliant and complicit in the ‘new’ cheaper orthodoxy-check Compliant local press and social media plants willing to disseminate the puppet masters narrative -check On players speaking out –could be NDAs (a la Big Sam) or could just be the culture of omerta among players –a sort of extension of what happens in the dressing room stays in the dressing room. Only guessing.

Of course, there are always many factors and context. And stats are never the whole story. But I don't think there is much difference between the 2, but for me Shefki is better.