aletheia

Plenty of rubbish emerges after a win. Plenty of rubbish emerges (LET comments and elsewhere) after a new plan emerges. As for patience -hmm, is 15 years enough?

Yep. Don't get it. Well, I do. Defenders just hate attackers getting ahead of them. But surely, these days, top players know that you do that and it makes it easy for a ref and will be given. In lower leagues, maybe, you might get away with it. In the prem, with VAR, never. But essentially, surely the percentages are against you and coaches must tell players that? The odds of the attacker of scoring a goal vary but you take the chance-your goalie might do the business. And they could miss the pen. But if you get sent off, it's more or less game over. So don't do it. Give your keeper a chance to shine, give their penalty taker a chance to miss. But I do get it also -it's instinctive.

🙂 I've just spilt my pinot noir.

Yep. Circa £8.5m from Germany.

I make it 18.

All that narrative changes if you are backed and then promoted.

Is Leonard still confirmed as gone? Is Gudjohnson a done deal?

Wet, wild and windy, slick surface, great expectations, great atmosphere, hope it’s a great game.

Hope you enjoy the match Nic81. 🙂

Eddie, I’m not really disagreeing with your post above. I’m not keen on revisionism –this stuff about the old playing guard (and managers) were never going to take us anywhere. I just think that is harsh. They needed backing. On the new excitement –I get it: you just knew previously we wouldn’t make it, but we also knew that it wasn’t entirely down to the lads on the pitch –shenanigans off the pitch were responsible. I don’t like the idea that the new plan is a footballing masterstroke –it is financially driven. I don’t like the idea that if we don’t get in the top 6/promotion, then it doesn’t matter because you have to give the new plan time or it’s not fair to judge after one season (how long before we judge?) – that would just be as you say same old but on a slimmer budget and workforce and with Pasha more firmly in control. Ultimately, what is it that will rid us of these owners? I don’t think we will get promotion with this new model (there’s a stick to beat me with if it happens). So that means same old but with higher turnover of players (agents lovely jubbly). I know some would take relegation if it got rid of the owners. On the new sense of excitement. I get that too. I will certainly be going to the game with a sense of intrigue and interest. On a match to match basis, we all like to see exciting football, wins, goals etc.

Things could have got better if managers had been backed and then you would have had your sense of hope and entertainment. Those players you mention were taking us to that promotion push, just needed backing. Things did seem to be getting better under JDT (entertaining too) but matters off the pitch put paid to that. Agreed, that it is going to be fun (at least initially) but not so sure that if it doesn't work, we will be in just the same position as previously. Fewer assets to sell off?

It isn't ? So what are we judging players on then?

Glad someone's reading. Yes you are absolutely right, thanks (seriously), I've had it the wrong way round in my notes for ages. 🙂

We'll get back to you in May. 😉

Crikey- thought we were all alig.. I mean er, moving in the same direction.

Wouldn't dispute your figures -just going off transfermarket (yes I know)..

Plants on LET and social media and some would say here -I couldn't possibly comment. 🙂

Totally guessing and tongue in cheek but... Pasha not liking comparisons to Putin (ie cross me and you're out)- so contrary, make it hard to lose Leonard? I know, realms of conspiracy which is definitely not my style but hey, transfer stuff is thrown out here willy nilly 😉 Edit But no, it's just the cash, isn't it? 🙂

Can't argue with that. Everyone got a crib sheet for the names and positions? 😉 Don't rely on the scoreboard. 😉

In Ryoya morishita 28 midfield-legia warsaw euros 2.1m Sidnei Tavares 23 –midfield –Portugal euros 2m Axel Henriksson – 23- euros 860k Lewis Miller 24 - right back –Hibs (Australian) euros 860k Dion de Neve 24-midfiled –euros 759k Ryan Alebiousu 23 right back – euros 576k Sean McLoughlin-28-centre back-Hull euros 575k Moussa Baradji – 24 –loan Total expenditure = Euros 7.73m Out Travis Euros 3.5m? Joe Rankin Costello 25 Charlton euros 870k Callum Brittain 27 Middlesborough euros 3.5m???? John Buckley 25 Al-Kolood euros 1m???? Tyrhys Dolan 23 Espanyol –free (wages saved)? Andreas Weimann 33 Derby free (wages saved)? Danny Baath 34 Derby free (wages saved)? Jordan eastham 23 free (wages saved)? Jalil saadi-free transfer Cauley Woodrow end of loan Jack vale-without club O’riordan-loan Dilan markandy -free ACD – end of loan Beck – end of loan Dennis –end of loan Sanderson – end of loan Total Income = euros 8.87m So thus far, spend = circa euros 1.14m

I never get the ire directed at him. Flopped here, true but did good elsewhere. It happens a lot - both ways. Ie we get someone who we think is uselesss, they go on somewhere and do well. And vice versa. All about timing, luck, surrounding players and all sorts of other factors. One that sticks in my mind is Franny Jeffers -not necessarily his time here but he looked cracking at Everton and then went to Arsenal? and flopped. Stars wax and wane. And also, your shelf life can be short. A striker can be the dogs for a bit and then there is another one off the rank. edit I guess it was the price tag for Davies and he didn't do much (but not entirely his fault).

I thought it was the other way round. Always sad to see young players go but business is business I guess.

For what? League position? (We let it go that 3 of those named aren't here yet)

Indeed!

First part, of course. Went on running costs. Second part, agreed too. Let's hope the conveyor belt is still running.