Bring him back in January and send him on loan to a league 1 side

If a premier league club comes in and pays somewhere between £10-15 million then I think they’ll let him go. If it’s a championship club then we’ll either crank the price up or Dack could decide to go. I’m not sure that many premier league clubs will take the punt tbh he’s great for us in this league but I’m not sure he’s quick enough to make an impact I. The premier league but you have to understand he’s going to want to have a crack at it (I’d be worried if he didn’t). Dack has options; he can stay here become highest earner and get a decent release clause in his contract In case a prem club gambles on him. He can run his contract down and get picked up on a free by a prem club in 18months. Or he can try to leave in the summer at a slightly reduced price to whoever is willing to pay then, likely a championship team with a bit of money and try to get to the prem that way.

He just needs to stick as close to the team that started last night as he can.

When the team was announced I was very surprised. Dropped Holtby, actually started Graham and not only didn’t play Bennett at right back he benched him. Suddenly I was looking forward to the game. we played so well in that first half and the game in general that it initially confused me as I didn’t think we had that in us. but a day later I’m thinking that it vindicates a lot of what gets said on here: Rothwell should start most weeks Graham is still our best striker and should start when fit Nyambe should be right back Benno is a squad player not a regular starter. Armstrong up top on his own doesn’t usually work We shouldn’t have spent so much money on strikers who shouldn’t be in the team. we shouldn’t have sold Raya and replaced with just Walton on loan. I thought Raya was incredibly composed in his distribution and made some top saves.

I really don’t think the way he’s being used helps at all. The lads being asked to be a holding midfielder for Holtby who himself doesn’t look like a natural cm. Hes not a sitting midfielder, he’s a box to box midfielder who can drive forward and get stuck in too, ideally I’d place him with a deep lying playmaker but I don’t think we have one (maybe Downing). Maybe someone like Davenport (if he was playing at the required level) would be a good fit for him.

Leutwiler isn’t better than Walton at all. ive not seen enough of Lewis Thompson to make a judgement on him starting ahead of bell. Back 3 is an option for sure. Just hope that JRC is used as a wing back instead of Bennett.

Selection is tough for this one. There’s a few people who need to be dropped Bennett, Armstrong, Gallagher. A few who need dropping but we don’t have anyone else in their position, Walton & Bell. I felt the balance of the midfield was wrong on Saturday. I don’t think Holtby and Travis make a good pair. So maybe I’d go with Walton Nyambe. Lenihan. Tosin. Bell Travis. Davenport Rothwell. Dack. Downing Graham subs: Leutwiler, Bennett, Johnson or Evans, Holtby, Rankin-Costello, Brereton/Armstrong, Gallagher,

A wins a win but wow we were so poor. We were largely outplayed by a Barnsley team with one win all season. Another baffling team selection Mowbray, Gallagher our wide again when it hasn’t worked before and makes literally no sense was a highlight. The Travis-Holtby partnership is very poorly balanced. The last substitution was a bit of a head scratcher too. All it does is delay the inevitable, what pleases me though that I think the ewood faithful finally turned on the manager. Lots of Mowbray sort it out chants and the crowd were very frustrated at 1-1 and 2-2.

I too am sceptical that Brereton will come good and that he has yet to make any real impression on me except vs a very poor Bolton side. With what we’ve already sunk into him i think it’s worth giving him another go when fit through the middle. Especially if we try to move the ball on the deck and use his movement in the channels.

It’s quite hard to fit 2 number 10’s into the same team especially if neither are quick enough to play wide.

Problem with Holtby is he’s a 10 and the best player we had here before his arrival is a 10.

He brought Samuel on with 10/15 mins to go, as essentially a right wing back. He was hopeless as you'd expect and to be fair I couldn't have a go at him because he was being asked to use a skill set he doesn't have. All this at a time when we were chasing the game. Thanks for reminding me about this because it made literally no sense.

Yep. Wasn’t deemed able to play his position as well as our now 6th choice centre mid Richie Smallwood. Reed now starts for Fulham, good call that one.

Good comment made earlier by one poster. After all the effort we made to get rid of a bloated uneven squad we seem to have ended up with the same issue but this time it’s arguable worse. we can’t use the under 23’s to replace some of those players suggested earlier because simply the under 23’s that are ready to step up don’t play in those positions. Tony has blocked the path of the players most likely to break through. He’s now settled on a defence which has at right back a jobbing midfielder, at centre half we have a right back and a potentially good cb who isn’t ours, and at left back we have a backup centre half. He seemed to realise what the problem is at the end of last season with the 'defenders are coming' but they didn’t really. He moans about Lenihan being injured but anyone building a defence around Lenihan knows he is going to miss between 10-20 games a season through injury as he has the last 2 seasons Tony has been in charge!!! Forget the transfer fees for a minute (lucky for Mr £5million & 1 goal in16 games) but the money he’s spending on wages means that we can’t just finish 17th again, he has to justify that with at least a top 10 finish. If your splurging money on Downing, Johnson, Tosin, Holtby and Cunningham then you also can’t argue that we are a work in progress or a side for the future as those are players for now. Throw in the frequent tactical head scratchers and selection issues and my point is he doesn’t know how he’s going to get us up the league and for my money there isn’t much point hanging onto someone who is only going to waste more resources and not improve us.

Blue team: Walton JRC. Lenihan. Tosin. Bell Chapman Travis. Davenport Downing Dack Gallagher White team: Leutwiler Bennett Nyambe Williams Cunningham Evans Johnson Armstrong. Holtby Rothwell Graham subs: Hart, Butterworth, Buckley, Brereton, Smallwood, Samuel. Other than the keeper you could pick either side and not really get much difference. Right back is an issue for both sides.

I’m sure he’ll defend himself by saying he wasn’t being defensive because bla bla bla. Embarrasingnly negative from the manager

Sorry that’s not ambitious that’s just mad

At 2-1 down with 20 mins to go Tony brought on Evans for Holtby and Buckey for Gallagher. He made us more cautious when we were chasing the game. We didn’t create anything in that last 20 mins either. Completely baffling.

Armstrong is a very good example. My view on him is he’s a useful player who is often wrongly deployed by Mowbray who sees him as a man for all seasons. He calls Rothwell out for poor defensive work but Armstrong although he may appear to work harder is defensively out of position a lot. His shooting and final ball is often wasteful. I’ve seen him in some games this season where he’s been technically very poor (eg Fulham away where he kept running the ball out of play). He has a good game what 1 in 5? But he never criticises him in the press or leaves him out.

The logic is confusing. If Travis has a below par game despite being our best centre mid he gets dropped. If for example Bennett has a poor game at right back he didn’t get dropped despite having Nyambe waiting in the wings. With the young players, he’s made a mess of the current squad and he’s not got it in him to give one a run of games ahead of the array of attacking players he has expensively assembled.

Just read this from the lancs evening telegraph yesterday I’ve left him out for a few games, because he’s been poor with his distribution and was getting caught on the ball,” Mowbray said. “He was really good (against Wednesday), he was aggressive and on the front foot. “These lads are learning the game and I’m sure that somewhere down the line, they’ll be good footballers for this club, but they have to learn from these mistakes and develop. Yet again Mowbray is calling a player out for something that he hasn’t called a senior player out for.

Have thought that Darragh ‘hoof’ Lenihan is overrated for a while. He’s not a bad player he’s willing to put his head on it and is fairly mobile but he’s not got the potential to play in the premier league as the management have claimed. personally I really like Tosin, he’ll end up in the prem in a year or two. Tall, mobile, good technically and composed in possession

Hasn’t Charlie Austin only scored 1 goal this season?

I’m not holding out any hope of any of these coming through this season. Not because I don’t rate them I just don’t see where they fit into our squad. We could give them a go but TM is unlikely to open himself up to criticism by for example leaving out Brereton to play Butterworth, as he’s paid a high transfer fee for him and in a lot cases this year wages. It must be hard for him to justify it. When Raya, Nyambe and Travis came through you could see the pathway for them as they were say one of 2 players in their respective positions but Butterworth for example as second striker or a 10 has about 4 or 5 players in front of him. weve got Chapman, Davenport, Buckley, Rankin-Costello, Butterworth who all need game time in the football league.

Tbh I was critical of TM for not bringing either Johnson or Evans on 10 mins sooner as I felt we were getting to stretched in midfield. I felt their goal was coming. Even if with Evans on we would’ve had enough attacking players on the pitch.