Ipswich fans were willing to give Hurst time up until the QPR match, basically. After that they really turned on him and performances just disintegrated to the point where it became obvious it wasn't going to work out. There's a similar divide across the Ipswich fans to us and Allardyce years ago. Pro-Mick fans blaming the anti-Mick fans for what's happened, anti-Mick fans saying he had to go and it isn't their fault Evans brought in the wrong person. All very familiar. The one thing most of them are in agreement over is that the current team is severely lacking quality and won't survive without reinforcements in January. It remains to be seen whether Evans will back Lambert in Jan, but they can't write the next two months off or they'll be sunk anyway. I saw a few of them talking about Lambert taking Bennett and Graham from us, as if either would go to Ipswich. There's some strong delusion on there. Most of them seem to think Mowbray would have gone there in the summer as well if they'd been serious about getting him. Absolutely no chance Mowbray would have left us for Ipswich imo, and I said as much at the time. A lot of them seem to be in denial about their current standing in the footballing landscape.

I give up.

Some confusion and questions, sure, but somehow the only post talking about Tony losing the plot is focused on. I wonder why?

At best that was one or two posters, although from the reaction of some you'd assume the entire board wanted Mowbray put in the stocks. Most of us were just a bit baffled by the team selection. In the positivity sub forum such a horrific response could be outlawed though. Only praise for the team selection and formation. No need to read those terrible posts that dare to question the manager's unassailable wisdom.

Can we not create a "Positive Posts Only" sub-forum where posters who can't stand to see any remotely critical opinion of Tony or the team are allowed to post in peace? Not even joking at this point. I'm getting bored of these types of posters constantly derailing match threads and picking fights with other people trying to have a balanced debate. Make it so that any remotely negative post on this sub-forum causes a user to be banned for life from said sub-forum. Only positives. Call it "In Tony We Trust". Make it so.

That's not modidied, though, It's a direct quote from the man who wrote the article. The Rovers boss will be handed around £50m by the new owners. What part of that is ambiguous to you? He's not saying "if the Venkys were going to buy all the players that they claimed they would", as you suggested, although if you can find me that quote I'd be interested to see it.

Did you even read the link? Literally in the first two paragraphs:

Probably said it on this very messageboard in one of those trainwreck 11 o'clocker threads. Not going to bother going back to trawl through them, but this isn't one of those things where a lie is repeated so often it becomes the truth. Nixon made the claim (as evidenced in that link) and concocted a laundry list of players that never came anywhere near the club.

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but for reference anyway: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn-set-to-splash-50m-on-summer-1698580

Coming from the same guy who said we had a £50m warchest I think I'll take a wait and see approach on anything Nixon says. Ipswich do need investment if they want to survive though. Their current team isn't good enough to compete, Hurst really did a number on them.

Because Leutweiller isn't a Championship calibre goalkeeper. We might get away with it if it's only for a game or two, but any more than that and I think we'll lose points as a result. Raya has won us a number of points this season already with some outstanding saves. Maybe Leutweiller can do the same, but until that's proven to be the case I'm going to be pretty concerned.

To be fair, if he sees you as negative then the rest of us must seem like the most dark-hearted, callous scoundrels to ever claim to support a football club.

I'd say he probably did overachieve with our relegated team to some degree (although we weren't as bad as the table suggested when he arrived, a lot of the players had just had the talent and enthusiasm coached out of them), and he's doing about as you'd expect with the current group. Maybe a little better. As we saw last year, Tony has a habit of over-complicating things and we're seeing that again now with this strange attempt at playing a strikerless system. Mowbray's obviously a deep thinker when it comes to football, but sometimes he thinks a bit too much. I can't see us getting relegated under him as long as he's suitably backed by the owners, but at the same time I'd be surprised if we got promoted unless the squad sees significant improvement.

We aren't getting into the playoffs without significant reinforcements in January. Despite £7m being due to come out on a striker we still don't have proper back up for Danny Graham, as shown by Dack being put up front in the last couple of games. Injuries to either of our centre backs or the goalkeeper massively weaken us as well. If we're still competing for a top six place by Jan 1 and Venky's allow Mowbray to bring in a few more bodies then anything can happen, assuming we also keep hold of Dack. As it stands I think our current position is about right, give or take a couple of places in either direction.

He's like a much improved version of Smallwood. Runs himself into the ground for the cause, has good ability and is quite versatile. He's exactly the type of player every team needs. He had a decent season at Norwich last year so I'm pleasantly surprised nobody picked him up before we did.

5 losses in 49 games is a misleading stat when a significant chunk of those games were in League 1 against vastly inferior opposition. You can only beat what's put in front of you but we shouldn't get too carried away with that particular statistic. As far as this season is concerned we're currently 12th, having won 5, drawn 7 and lost 3. I'd say that's pretty good on its own merits. I'd certainly have taken this position had it been offered to me at the start of the season. Just because we're doing fairly well so far doesn't mean we should ignore what can be improved, though. Echo chambers are easy to find on facebook or certain twitter threads, I'd rather this place remained a decent venue for proper discussion rather than posters repeating "in Mowbray we trust" ad infinitum. He's obviously done a good job so far but we should always be looking to improve. I'd be more concerned if people weren't questioning the decision to have an attacking midfielder as our sole striker when there's a £7m striker on the bench alongside our primary target man. It was a strange decision and had Reed not scored that absolute worldie we'd be talking about a 1-0 loss that could have been a draw or win had we started the match with a proper striker.

Agreed. I think it would probably have been 1-1 under Bowyer as well.

Just shows how time alters perceptions. All i remember reading when GB was in charge was how he had the team fighting for the shirt and made us proud to support Rovers again. The king is dead, long live the King, i guess.

How would this have been a heavy defeat under Bowyer? Really harsh lumping him in with those managers.

Apparently Lambert was in the stands watching Ipswich today. Probably thinking about resigning already.

If you'd offered me a draw after seeing that ridiculous starting line up I would have snapped your hand off, so can't complain. We are so screwed if Raya is injured though.

Doesn't look like we've been outplayed by any means, but it's mind blowing that WBA concede 4 in their last game and we decide to line up without a striker.

Strange line up indeed. If we were going to go experimental why not give Brereton a go up top? If we get a result here then I guess we all hold our hands up and say fair enough, Tony's a genius. If not then wtf.

From the Ipswich Star's story on Lambert being brought in... Interesting that he apparently went to Ewood and held up a Rovers scarf. Guess he really misses us? Also from that article... Town owner Marcus Evans said: “In his time at Aston Villa he showed he could work with and develop young players and his teams have always looked to play exciting football. Those attributes fit our ethos here." Does he think the fans are idiots? The last Lambert team to play exciting football was Norwich, 6 years ago. He's not going to start trying again at Ipswich of all teams.

QPR storming up the table now. Three clean sheets in a row, only two conceded in five games. Take note Tony, clean sheets and solid defending are the foundations for success.