For sure, but that's the nature of the beast. Bad decisions happen. They only had one shot on target the whole game, so if they were on the receiving end of a bad decision they were always going to be losing. If they'd tried to actually win the game they might have had a goal or two to make up for a poor decision against them. When he says that QPR did enough to win it I lose all sympathy. By the sound of it they did everything possible to make it a miserable afternoon for everybody.

It was clearly an insipid performance from us today, but I'd be more angry as a QPR fan. On a great run and they come to Ewood to face a Rovers without Raya or Mulgrew to try and grind out a 0-0 draw, only managing five shots the entire match. That's pretty sad, although if they'd come to actually make a game of it maybe we would have come out of our shells too. McClaren: ""It's a bad decision which has cost us a point and continuation of our run." Wrong, Steve, it was your decision to play for a goalless draw that ended your run. Try to be a bit braver next time, you might get something from the game. As it stands you left yourself open to a sucker punch and duly received it.

They've been on a hell of a run recently. I thought they might get rid of Farke in the summer but they kept him on and appear to be reaping the benefits now. Lambert nearly had a repeat of what he did here, beating Preston in his first match in charge. Wasn't to be though. They really could have done with winning that one too.

QPR only had five shots to our ten, they couldn't have been that good?

The sooner the better, although I don't see it happening any time soon. Ultimately I think it would just end up with different clubs having money pumped into them and making the playing field uneven again.

It's just the prism we see the concept through. At our current level of technology we envision computers, servers, hard drives, etc. In a thousand years (assuming we make it that far) the concept will still exist but probably in a somewhat different guise, based on how far we've advanced by then.

I probably confused things a bit joking about the NG+ scenario. Simulation Theory in of itself doesn't suggest reincarnation as a possibility, but it doesn't exclude it either. It would come down to interpretation of how consciousness is programmed which is an entirely different discussion. Similarly it doesn't suggest that our actions correlate to how the universe behaves, at least not at the basic level of that theory. It's pretty wide open to interpretation due to its open-ended nature. Also on an unrelated note free will doesn't exist. Just wanted to throw that out there as a general comment.

I'd need a microwave, a mobile phone, access to the LHC and a ton of Dr Pepper, but yes, it's possible.

That's the crux of it. Even more compelling when you get down to the lowest levels of physics and it starts to become pretty hazy and chaotic, like it was only programmed to a certain level of complexity. Obviously we only see things through a very limited scope, but quantum physics is pretty wild. Computer simulation at its core isn't a new concept though. It goes all the way back to Descartes and Cartesian philosophy, but now we're going way off track. To tie it back to Glenn, reincarnation is just respawning. I guess to Glenn when we respawn our former stats are carried over, like NG+ mode in RPGs.

The logic behind the theory is surprisingly sound. It's an interesting rabbit hole to go down. If I'm an NPC I'm probably okay with that. If I'm the primary character then something's gone wrong somewhere.

After an impressive start Edwards seems to have lost his way a bit at Ipswich. A lot of talk of him running into a lot of blind alleys with little end product. Obviously difficult to judge with Hurst as manager and being surrounded by some very poor players. The times I've seen him playing for Ipswich he's always looked dangerous, and he could have been a viable alternative to Chapman (particularly as he can actually stay fit for longer than a couple of weeks).

Computer simulation theory is pretty cool. I'm hitching my horse to that wagon. Not sure what description that falls under - technostic? Did not expect to come into this thread and see such heavy debate/arguments going on. I do wonder how the England team back then would have progressed if Hoddle had stayed on though. He had some really wacky ideas but we looked good in France 98 and still had a solid group of players going into Euro 2000. Whether Hoddle would have lasted past that I don't know, as England managers have always had fairly short shelf lives.

Well, I think the obvious decision is to put Leutwiler in goal so I don't think it comes down to loyalty in this instance, just common sense.

Tbf if that was the case teams would constantly be picking up goalies from the lower divisions. You can get decent shot stoppers anywhere, but as the intelligence and talent of the teams you face increases so does the need to make accurate and quick decisions, whilst also making very few mistakes as they get more costly the higher up the pyramid you go. That's what tends to seperate the good goalies from the average/bad ones. Decision making and confidence are both bred largely from experience, and if you haven't had experience of playing against a better quality of opposition then you're likely going to struggle.

Mowbray brought him to England in 2012 when he was manager of Middlesbrough.

Yeah, but he was definitely considered backup when we picked him up. https://www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2017/08/02/jayson-leutwiler-departs-shrewsbury-town-for-blackburn-rovers/ That said he's still better than Jason Steele.

Leutweiler's name takes some effort to spell correctly, which is annoying. That aside he was Shrewsbury's back up keeper when we bought him, so logically you'd have to assume he probably isn't a Championship standard keeper. We might get through with him in the nets for a couple of games, but if we're talking long term then I think it's inevitable it will cost us a few points (as Kean and Eastwood did on a regular basis a few years ago, although granted both were much less experienced). For the time being it is what it is, hopefully he'll see this as an opportunity to impress and put on a hell of a performance.

From another link on that story: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/17719839 "I said: 'We need you to play today'," stated Kean. "[But] he was nowhere near in the right frame of mind to do it. "I can't get inside somebody's head, I can only say how much we and his team-mates need him." "We need guys who want to play even if they are injured or their heads are not quite right. If you look at David Dunn with his hamstring, he is having injections to play. "But I would rather keep the conversation between myself and Gael private." I love that final line, after he's basically thrown Givet under the bus anyway. What a dignified man wee Stevie is.

I was so disappointed when Petrovic turned out to be a flop. He'd always been great for me on FM so had been looking forward to him grabbing the PL by the scruff of the neck. It was obviously just too difficult with my guidance Modeste obviously turned out to be decent, but my only memory of him here is him getting sent off. Can't remember the match but it summed everything up at the time. Vukcevic was a talented footballer but a total nutcase. I guess that's why we picked him up for £2m. Yeah, JJ was the 2011 January window. He was a big part of the reason we kept our heads above water that season. Petrovic was unfortunately nowhere near the same level.

I guess you could count Scott Dann as a decent buy, but that was the best we got. Yak turned out OK too. Then we had Myles Anderson (just lol, and this guy still managed to get employed in Italy, no doubt through some kind of Kentaro connection), Goodwillie, Petrovic, Bruno Ribiero (aka the Brazilian Denis Irwin), Simon Vekcevic, Jordan Slew, Tim Payne (wtf happened to him?), the other Olsson twin, Modeste and the cherry on top of the shit sundae, Bradley Orr. Dismal. And those last three came in January when we were already in trouble and desperately in need of reinforcements. And we let Samba leave after the transfer window closed, ensuring we couldn't get in a replacement, so another good job there. We also released Ryan Nelsen and froze out Salgado. Well done Keano.

Widely known to have been written by Nixon, but yeah a total and absolute load of BS. Now Ipswich fans can look forward to much of the same for the next two months. Although Simeon Jackson, Grant Holt and Elliot Ward aren't quite as glamorous.

A lot of people seem to think this forum and our fans exist in some kind of bubble with unique reactions to matches, managers, players, etc. Fact is it's the same across the land. That's what makes football a universal language, and why it's so easy to strike up a conversation with a total stranger about their club even if you know little about their team.

Ipswich fans were willing to give Hurst time up until the QPR match, basically. After that they really turned on him and performances just disintegrated to the point where it became obvious it wasn't going to work out. There's a similar divide across the Ipswich fans to us and Allardyce years ago. Pro-Mick fans blaming the anti-Mick fans for what's happened, anti-Mick fans saying he had to go and it isn't their fault Evans brought in the wrong person. All very familiar. The one thing most of them are in agreement over is that the current team is severely lacking quality and won't survive without reinforcements in January. It remains to be seen whether Evans will back Lambert in Jan, but they can't write the next two months off or they'll be sunk anyway. I saw a few of them talking about Lambert taking Bennett and Graham from us, as if either would go to Ipswich. There's some strong delusion on there. Most of them seem to think Mowbray would have gone there in the summer as well if they'd been serious about getting him. Absolutely no chance Mowbray would have left us for Ipswich imo, and I said as much at the time. A lot of them seem to be in denial about their current standing in the footballing landscape.

I give up.

Some confusion and questions, sure, but somehow the only post talking about Tony losing the plot is focused on. I wonder why?