JDT has lost us this game today no question about it. Took off our most potent threats when we were in the ascendancy! Absolutely shocking

Right now our squad is lower to mid table... I genuinely believe we have a decent young core.. but it needs some help / investment.. A CM and Striker and we are slightly above mid table.. right now our attacking threat is nullified by Gallagher, Vale, Brereton.

JDT has every right to be annoyed.. he needs more support, his team are pinching above thier weight in terms of results and league positions but the football is shocking.. probably worse than Mowbray.. I always said he needs 3-4 transfer windows to get his team in place.. 1.5 down.. 2.5 to go.. so far he has not been supported and has every right to be annoyed. In tonight's game I thought once we took off Sorba we took away any chance of winning the goal.. our team is toothless and having to rely on Vale and Galagher says it all.

I think JDT comments last night probably summed up the situation... Pretty disgraceful the fans have been left hanging like they have... Communication is key, even if its bad news.

Markanday to JDT is what Nyambe was in the early days to Tony... Felt he's been a real option, but feels like JDT blind spot?

I had heard of glass half full.. but I discovered glass smashed on the floor when I visited this site!

Still a day to go so let's see.. but still shoild be doing better in the recruitment area.. lower leagues and Europe should eb attainable for us..

JRC has changed my mind, brilliant performance well done. What's happened to Wharton.. gone from commanding CB to someone who can't jump any more?

Ins: - LB as backup to pickering - RB to play as Brittain is injured most of the time - Midfielder that can drive forward with the ball and create space - Pacey Striker Outs: - Rankin Costello, yes had a few games but not good enough at this level. - Mola - Hirst / Vale, both not top half Championship players. - Markanday, send on loan if JDT doenst fancy him (which he clearly doesn't)

I think Garratt has got something, unfortunately Trav is on a downward spiral... if you look purely at raw materials then Garratt is ahead... which is a shame because I thought Travis was gonna be the 1st name on the sheet about a year ago

My point being Markanday has been frozen out in the same way Nyambe was by Mowbray in his second year..

Markanday is JDTs Nyambe! 3 defeats in 4... Is this the JDT death spiral

Before the season started I said I would be happy with mid table, especially given JDT will be blooding more youngsters which he has and the guys that left over the summer. Hes had half a transfer window so far, I think any manager with our budget needs 3-4 transfer windows to get to where he wants. I have concerns about the team, absolutely I do, but right now JDT is 'punching' there us no doubt about that given the overall holistic picture and facts. I would have expected / wanted play offs next season, but there are teams with bigger budgets than us so we have to be realistic. We lose JDT and we bring someone else in, no one is guaranteed of success in the championship.

Ok so just got home from the game (what the heck was going on with the traffic, been a long time since its been that bad) Anyway onto the game, yes Forest were much the better side and had it not been for Pears heroics it would have been a cricket score! Totally get the selection given a) these lads got us here and b) upcoming games, the priority has to be to get onto the play offs, irrespective of how.. that said, the most worrying this about this side is the lack of resilience we have, we really do have a very soft under belly... for what it's worth my player ratings: Pears 9 - probably the game of his career, sad that we still lost 4-1 Travis 6 - this lad is going backwards and runs like savage did at 36! Williams 7 - decent all things compared (his age etc) Wharton 6 - yes he scored but he was generally poor what's happened to his rock solidness? Mola 3 - out of his depth send him back, put a youngster in Garett 7 - played well, I like this lad, if he can kick on he'll be decent Wharton 6 - again seems to have gone backwards but early days for him Markanday 7.5 - to be brought off ahead of others is criminal, one of the few bright sparks on a miserable night. He has something we are missing in our squad! Hedges 5 - missing most of the game, sad to see Smodzic 8 - worked his socks off and showed a few nice touches, my outfield man of the match Hirst 3 - what does this guy offer! I mean honestly we should play Markanday down the middle ahead of this half hearted lump. Thought Buckley showed some nice touches, hoping he can fill in for Travis..

Anything better than a 5-0 drubbing will be a bonus That's my expectation level with that side!

Wow... just wow

No idea why our best player was brought off, ie saka??

When we win we scrape a win (mostly) when we lose we disintegrate... Worrying times, they wanted it more than us

Embarrassing!!!

Very poor performance and don't think JDT selection has helped

We've got to do something we not really done in a league game this season...

Brilliant defending lads!!

Put Pickering on, put him at LB, switch Brittain to normal position and Hedges in places of Garett. Not sure what Dack has done since the Blackpool game, a relegation standard team...

Yes Garatt struggling, we are hiding

100% penalty