I see Bradford have sacked their managers after a dodgy run. They did a good job in keeping them away from trouble when struggling last year but the club have taken decisive action and are not seeking applicants for the job. Coming to something when 4th division Bradford can do it but we can't.

Are you expecting Waggott to honour that offer? I've learned the hard way not to trust him with my money.

Can still do away games and u23s. That should be enough. Mowbray and Waggott might start to care when there's only 4000 rattling around in Ewood including kids and comps.

Bull5shit Waggott in full view for everyone to see. Things kicking off in January because of our disgrace of a pitch, caused through neglect and limited investment since Venkys turned up, including bringing national attention after games having to be postponed because of it. Waggott shuts people up promising grand things in the summer. All sounds wonderful. What are they moaning about? Then it doesnt materialise. I'd have put my life savings on us not spending £1 million+ on Ewood this summer. All a con. Substitute 'pitch' for 'training ground', 'players', 'sponsors' or just about anything else that he's failed to deliver in his time here. I do think there's possibly something in the suggestion that this won't even have reached the owners door. I think the attraction of the current regime to Venkys is they can just leave them to it for the year and they are confident, via Suhail, that there's no dodgy business or waste of their money taking place. Waggott has got his hefty good number here on the basis that he has the skill set to achieve cost reductions and income increases. All sounds good to India. I also expect Waggott is on some sort of bonus scheme where he gets paid more the more he saves the owners/club. On that basis it serves him absolutely no purpose to go off to India with a begging bowl and request £1-2 million for a new pitch. Venkys might refuse it but even if they didn't it would probably take too long to get approval or would reflect negatively on his figures and 'performance'. Cheep and cheerful is the way of things here, except when it comes to his salary of course.

Indeed but I expect there willl be many hundreds if not thousands who will be thinking and doing similar. These people will range from those who will refuse to renew until changes are made to those who won't make such a black and white decision but will nevertheless not feel it is worth buying a season ticket next year. Clearly keeping Mowbray and co. in work and doing the bare minimum is more important to the owners than running the club properly. That's up to them, they pay the bills as their staff like to remind us. But they expect hard working folk to just sit back and hand over good money to put up with whatever they feel like doing? On what possible basis are they hoping to sell season tickets next year? Simply hoping that people are desperate to get back to watching games in grounds regardless of how bad it is? Other clubs are slashing prices, begging fans to renew, offering bonuses or prizes to do it or can rely on new managers or changes to get some excitement going. If only life was so simple as 'just get behind the lads' at whatever price they come up with. You can't take people for granted like that. You have to earn it in this day and age.

Pre season will be easy enough to predict. Any 4 or 5 of Carlisle, Barrow, Morecambe, Blackpool, Stanley, Oldham, Rochdale, Wigan, Fleetwood, Bolton and Tranmere followed by our showpiece friendly against Everton or Liverpool reserves as thanks for developing our players last season/anyone else we can have? How can we possibly entertain making a change now he has rung some mates up at other clubs and got to work on new contracts.

The Barry Douglas situation sums up neatly the Mowbray curse on defenders at this club. He is clearly a decent player. Not under Mowbray's management though. In his time in charge he has had Williams, Hart, Bell, Douglas, Cunningham, Ayala, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Wharton, Magloire, Tosin, Rodwell, Bennett, Nyambe, JRC, Caddis, Harwood-Bellis, Branthwaite, Buckley, Carter, Downing x 2 and Johnson in his defence. How many of those have had positive reviews for their defensive ability whilst at Rovers? Fact remains we have a manager who doesn't take defending seriously and couldn't organise a side to save his life. Until that changes the conveyor belt of disappointing defenders will continue. Put a McCarthy or Hughton on the training ground and things would improve immeasurably.

It isn't one man though, it's 3, plus inadequate staff throughout and owners that couldn't care less. The trust has long gone and the only way that gets repaired is if one or preferably all of the 3 stooges depart. Admittedly my anger goes well beyond football and results. In normal conditions I might forgive/forget the horrendous results and performances and put it to the back of my mind when renewal time comes. But after the training ground stunt and blackmail of fans over the last 12 months too many bridges have been burned and I simply can't justify offering any level of support to these charlatans who are not acting in the interest of the club and are not worthy of the positions they occupy. My position might change but i think it is very unlikely. I also won't allow them to guilt trip me further. If the club is in danger of insolvency then the wages of Waggott, Mulgrew and co. need to go first.

I think where we are up to is that those players willing to accept more of the same - another 12 months at the same or less salary - will hang about. So Johnson will come into that category. The others - Evans, Bell and more to come - will be getting advised that they can get more than 1 year elsewhere which is why they will be leaving. Doesn't bode well that's all I can say. No way would Mowbray be allowed any input into contracts at this juncture if he was leaving. Shame because I was looking forward to being back watching games.

if you live in Blackburn and work in Manchester it can take 90 minutes+ to get there in rush hour or if you rely on public transport. Mowbray is incredibly lucky having a job that pays very well, can car share with his cronies and he's his own boss. The journey from Teesside to Brockhall is a nice ride and time it right it isnt a busy route or difficult. Other than his beloved Middlesbrough no other Championship club is as convenient to reach from where he lives. He's worked in Glasgow, Ipswich and the Midlands. A nightmare in comparison. He just can't help himself with the family guy hard working line. He knows it touches home with the Desai clan. It really is that easy to keep your job.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/05/10/nottingham-forest-plotting-major-rebuild-afterunderwhelming/ Just read this article on Forest. Its enough to make me weep. They've had a dismal season, yet their owner is going to ring the changes to sort it out and have them at the other end of the league. Owner is going to invest this summer to support Hughton. Hughton and key staff travelling to Athens soon for talks with owners. Determination to achieve Category 1 academy status and investment being made to secure it. Compare to our shower.

No club can or will be FFP compliant with no matchday income in 14 months and counting. We are releasing 15 players and likely to sell our biggest asset for millions. Why are we worried about FFP?

I agree that PL interest in Armstrong will be relatively low. I think there are only 3-4 clubs up there that might be interested in him - Newcastle, Brighton, West Ham - the rest I just can't see it I think to date there has been zero serious interest in him. I think Mowbray is well aware of this hence his shameless attempts in the media to drive up interest. The problem we are going to have is that when the penny drops that PL interest isn't really there, Rovers want/need money and Armstrong wants out because he doesn't want to waste his career away going nowhere - then you will end up with all sorts of clubs making cheeky enquiries and testing the water - the likes of Stoke, Forest, Fulham - Championship sides with a few quid behind them - then it becomes even worse than losing him to a top flight club because he'll go to someone who we should be finishing above and do the business.

I wouldn't go as far as to say the season has been disastrous, although I think over the next few months we may reassess that (when the horror of the inevitable cutbacks unfolds and we seriously regret not making progress this season). Disastrous would have been us ending up getting relegated, which up until a few weeks ago was a possibility. So that's the positive out of the way - we didn't get sucked into League One again. Mowbray has been shamelessly touting Armstrong in the media - his last opportunity with a microphone under his nose to issue a 'come and get him' plea to clubs. Quite embarrassing and sickening to see such a thing plastered on the BBC website but then again this is a desperate man with no excuses left so for him a mega money sale of Armstrong to the PL will be the best thing that could happen - this will vindicate his 'approach' and cover the criminal waste of money over the last few summers, all the while getting him some sort of money to spend on new players which he won't get otherwise. It's cringeworthy. Other than that it has been regression of varying degrees in just about every department. We end the season once again looking up at Preston, which alone for me sums up just how poor it has been. Preston who would consider themselves to have had a poor season including having to sack their manager and having a caretaker for the final third fixtures. Such has been the success of Mowbray and Waggott in diluting ambition and expectation that the brainwashed sheep think that is acceptable. Other heavyweights such as Millwall, Luton and Barnsley outperforming us considerably with much lesser resources and smaller losses shows that we have and are getting appalling value for money from the investment made. Normal reaction to such a waste is to employ management that can make more of it but not in Venky world - their reaction is to keep that manager but make it impossible by slashing costs and selling assets, inevitably leading to struggle/relegation next year costing much more than a managerial change now. The football has been for the large part dire. Interspersed with rare hammerings of garbage opposition along the way but a tragic record of results against those in the top 10 shows the manager just doesn't have the nous to change approach and overcome the better sides. A shrewd manager would find a balance to be able to use our obvious quality to outplay the dross (of which there is a lot) in this league and yet also instill doggedness and organisation to grind out results against the better sides who have similar/more quality than us. Mowbray can't or won't do this, instead sticking to his same old routine and watching the same errors unfold every week. I won't get on to the off the pitch stuff which is another story of concern. There may be parallels between ourselves and Bristol City in that both got off to a decent start yet over the season have gradually fallen down to the bottom end of the table and have been on dire runs of form. Difference is that Bristol City will ring the changes and rebuild under Pearson and I fully expect them to be a different beast next season. Rovers will be the same old and struggle.

The club still owes me from 2019-20 for games they didn't let me in to watch which i paid for up front. I think Waggott has still had £300,000 out of the club during the last 12 months, and has spent that time trying to sell our training ground. Everyone has their limit. Mine was reached with the above. That's before we get on to an unsackable manager and them expecting us to pay for it to continue.

Good question. I know what I think the answer is. Same for everyone else

Agreed. I wonder why he hasn't signed a contract extension?

Player of the Season award should bring more attention to Kaminski and probably put a bit more on his price tag. Lets remember that we need to sell him this summer unless we can sort a new contract. Why the hell did he get a shorter deal than Pears?

He'd do for me. Personal fortune of over $70 billion

Tony doesn't like making excuses. Except that's what he has done since the day he arrived, especially since we returned to the Championship. Infact him and his mate Waggott are the excuse makers in chief. Every time they speak they can't help but cover their own failures with a catalogue of excuses for why. Coronavirus has been a godsend for him on and off the pitch. He's going to spend the rest of his days blaming the pandemic for our diabolical season, of course anyone with an ounce of common sense would question how the pandemic has affected us any more than any other club and point out that everyone has had to deal with these issues. Off the pitch the empty stadia have enabled him to plod along for months on end with virtually zero hassle or aggravation from anyone, as the only people he sees at the club are those who think he is god's gift or who owe their positions to him. So those excuses keep on coming thick and fast. No money/we can't compete/parachute money clubs/well supported clubs - yet £20 million a year and no sales says we can compete, and Derby/Sheff Wed going down shows the old crowds argument to be pointless. Pandemic - nonsense Pitch problems - so get it sorted like everyone else does Injury issues - don't sign crocks Wage bill too high - don't give multi-year big deals to crocks Not many fans - how about putting tickets on sale FFP - everyone has it and manages Players demanding too much money - nonsense as the Bauer and Ayala fiascos prove the money is there when the boxes are ticked Hard luck sob stories and excuses. I want a manager with a 'can do' attitude here who doesn't see obstacles everywhere he turns.

I've no doubt with what is coming that survival will be seen as an achievement next season. All for the princely sum of £20 million per year. Doesn't take long for things to unravel does it? Failed manager kept in place, clueless owners and drastic budget cuts can turn even a promotion capable side into relegation contenders.

I'd love to believe this was the case but I just can't see it. For starters, with so many out of contract, would it not make much more sense to make the manager change now so that the new guy could decide on who he wanted to stay? Rather than clearing the decks then bringing a new manager in? No. I think we are at the limbo stage here, where they have given up on Mowbray but won't do the job of sacking him so we end up in this middle ground where he does what he is told whilst funding is cut and Suhail runs it. The club suffers because neither party is happy with things but they tolerate it to keep themselves in work. I think Bowyer fell out with Pasha and his involvement in 2015 which is why he was replaced. Not sure if he has the clout to do that these days with Mowbray and his henchmen.

We can but hope. Sadly I don't think this will be happening. They won't be so proactive and won't relinquish control. Any billionaire pumping money in will expect a say in the running of the club which Venkys won't allow. We're just back to paralysis stage as per summer 2012 and summer 2015.

So naive aren't they? I know 'going with the kids' is the cool or modern thing to do but it is suicide in this division. To survive or get out of it you need hardened experience in your ranks. Especially when here the motive is financial rather than football. Mowbray failed miserably at Coventry when he went with youth and his epitaph was regretting not bringing in experience.

What isn't good enough is this manager and his coaching staff. Everything else flows from that. Doesn't matter who we sign or play if the dugout stays the same.