
JHRover
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Just think about the contempt these owners and Waggott must have for the fans that this stuff has been going on for getting on a year, if not more, and none of them have had the decency to even mention it to fans. Matters that could determine the clubs ability to function or even stay in business, owners and CEO don't consider us worthy of it being mentioned.
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That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
If we look purely at the players we had under Mowbray who have gone on to better things the list is horrifying: Raya - won promotion to the PL with Brentford, now playing every week for Arsenal Kaminski - earning rave reviews in the PL with Luton Steele - playing regularly in the PL and Europa League with Brighton Lenihan - playing every week at Middlesbrough Amari Bell - big player for Luton in the PL Joe Rothwell - PL football with Bournemouth and potential promotion this season with Southampton Adam Armstrong - PL football with Soton and now playing every week in a promotion push Harwood Bellis, Harrison Reed & Tosin Adarabioyo - admittedly only loans but we took that initial step of giving them a full season of game time, very important in their development, before they were then taken on by others who have enjoyed the fruits of that. Diaz - big money move to Spain not worked out but now playing in the PL with Sheffield United Travis - will play regularly at automatic promotion chasing Ipswich I'm sure there will be people employed by Rovers attempting to claim some credit or praise for these 'developments' as though this vindicates our policies. Unfortunately for us most were released or let go for next to nothing, and the clubs we are talking about are the likes of Brentford, Luton and Ipswich. Once upon a time the thought of losing important players to these sort of clubs would be a joke, these days thanks to Venkys just about anyone is a better bet for an aspirational footballer. -
That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Yeah I heard a few saying 'see you back here' in the summer. Ain't going to happen. Even if JDT goes and the next bloke fancies him there's too much gone on now. We wanted his wages off and that's all there is to it, so the 'powers that be' will be hoping Ipswich love him so they'll come along with some cash early on in the summer window. Win win for Waggott and co. A well timed cash boost, big wage gone and all profit on an academy player. It really is sickening, especially when imbecilic Rovers fans start playing the 'poor little Rovers' routine, Ipswich being a club in League One for years and the definition of mediocrity for the decade prior to that. But another club that has more than we have - pride, ambition, determination - so I'm sure it will be like chalk and cheese moving down there to a club with an aim rather than just existing to develop particular players and keep people in jobs and favour with India. I don't want to support such an organisation, not at top end prices and having the mick taken out of me. I can take crap but not when we are being laughed at by those upstairs. -
Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach
JHRover replied to Tom's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
So nothing to do with FFP then. Our travails over the summer and this season caused only by the ownership investigation (that hasn't been explained by anyone in an official capacity). You make out like this is all transparent and has been explained. Yet all we know is what snippets fans have unearthed online, the owners and club have failed to explain any of it. -
Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach
JHRover replied to Tom's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Ok.....so how we were able to agree, fund and sustain such a bigger budget for several years under Mowbray? a)Have the rules changed in the last couple of years and we are now restricted much more than before? b)Has our income plummeted unexpectedly forcing us to change track? c) Or have the owners simply decided they don't want to put more in? Please explain which one of these you believe is the answer and why. -
Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach
JHRover replied to Tom's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Reading this I'm getting the impression that you are accepting FFP isn't the issue here? You're accepting the problem is the budget being cut from what Mowbray once enjoyed? If it is then why could they give Mowbray those transfer funds and not JDT? -
That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Szmodics' value is at its peak. It isn't getting any higher and certainly won't if our results and slide continue. There's something wrong if other clubs aren't interested in him. Championship top scorer and in his last outing scored a first half hattrick to singlehandedly turn the game around. Other clubs will try their luck even if they aren't confident of getting him. It's clear to anyone that we are in the mire, not helped by the CEO and others publicly admitting we are skint. Clubs will chuck cash forward just to test our resolve. When you are loaning your captain and experienced players out to rivals flashing lights will go off around the Championship- basically what the f*** is going on at Blackburn and shall we try our luck? I'm past caring now. Disaster is when, not if. As far as I am concerned cash sales now merely help Venkys keep the show on the road for longer. The less they get back the better. -
v West Bromwich Albion (a) - 13/1/24
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
The highlight of my day was leaving the ground as the added time board went up and there were 3-4 lads in the concourse shouting 'we want Venkys out'. It wasn't much but in the depths of despair it was a welcome relief that at least a small number of the people who go 'get it'. -
v West Bromwich Albion (a) - 13/1/24
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I think it is perfectly reasonable to have my knickers in a twist that our captain is playing for a side 2nd in the division and going to get at least a play-off position (more than we've had in over a decade), whilst we could be getting relegated with a team of kids, yes. I'm not saying he's the 'best player ever' but he's clearly very useful especially for a young/inexperienced side leaking goals all over the place and there's clearly a lot more to this than meets the eye. At best it sums up just what a complete shambles and mess this club is. -
v West Bromwich Albion (a) - 13/1/24
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
The players will know what the people above the coaching staff are up to behind the scenes. The dirty tricks, scheming, manoeuvring. The aim of their game is to get players out of the door, get some cash in and get their wages off the books, replace them with academy kids and loanees on 1/3 of the money. I suspect Travis saw this coming some time ago which is why he was expressing a desire to leave. He won't have been the first - I think Lenihan, Ayala, Nyambe, Diaz, Rothwell and many others also fell victim to it - and realised their futures had to be elsewhere because the 'powers' decided their time was up. I imagine there is utter bewilderment in the dressing room at Rovers and at Ipswich at the situation and this will only grow over the coming weeks as we hurtle towards the bottom 3 with the most porous defence in the league whilst he starts ever game for a side sat 2nd. It was an utterly outrageous move clearly not motivated by footballing considerations but these sort of suspicious and strange stunts have been all too common under the scum. There's nothing to add to the match thread for me. It was awful but the manager knows what they've done and what the crack is here. He's waiting for the sack. He's about to make his third big mistake: 1) Joining this hideous organisation 2) Not walking when he had the chance last summer after a good first season 3) Thinking the scum are going to fire him - they won't - they'd rather see us drop into League One -
That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
SEG group by the looks of things. Travis seems to have joined them very recently and thanked them for their help in getting the Ipswich deal done. JDT joined them last year. Also on the 'roster' are Kaminski and Tyler Morton. Think they are quite a big outfit and seem to have Pep Guardiola and numerous United/City/Liverpool people. Certainly an interesting one though...... -
That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
And JDT -
That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Why haven't we reinvested the Travis, Dack, Diaz, Ayala, O'Brien wage allocations and the Kaminski/Ash Phillips cash? Can the person who answers that ask Chaddy how and why he thinks Gallagher money is going on multiple 'better' signings? -
That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I'm at the stage where I wouldn't support selling anyone. Two reasons One is our squad cannot get smaller. Two is that every penny we raise in sales means less for Venkys to pump in. Less for Venkys to pump in means less pressure on them and easier for them to ignore us. If there are no sales they can't divert the funds into running costs and instead have to find it themselves or borrow it. If there's truth to the Indian issues that might not be easy so I hold out some faint hope that this will force them out. Unlikely to happen I accept and more likely they'll direct Broughton to sell everything they can get cash for, but at least where a third party is involved, such as a lender or Court, there's a distant hope of them forcing a collapse in the rotten regime. £1.5 million or so plus Gallys wages out would do very nicely for that mob I'm sure. Not much good for our stricken squad but they don't care on iota about that little part of things I'd rather they didn't get a penny and have to find the cash themselves. For those thinking 'reinvest' don't. Because we won't. -
That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
If true I suspect that they will have in mind what they paid for Gallagher (£5 million?) and will have an issue with letting him go for so much less than that. He was an investment signing like Armstrong and Diaz and someone along the line might have to justify a multi-million loss on Gallagher if we offload him for a million or two. Flipping it round on the player being the proble for not agreeing new terms is easier to justify than we are agreeing to sell him at a £3 million loss. And yes, I really do think the people running things here operate in such a nonsensical fashion, as we've seen with Diaz and Rothwell. -
My theory is that we are having to wait for the outcome of the Newport v Eastleigh replay on Tuesday night. The winner plays Man Utd in the next round which if course is nailed on for TV broadcast. Seems likely broadcasters will want to know that outcome before fixing their slots and won't want to put us and Wrexham on when it might clash. Whatever the reasons I suspect it will be Wednesday before we know the precise day and time of the game and Thursday before tickets are on sale, leaving a week of sales. I knew they'd find a way to shorten or limit sales potential though in this case not all the club's fault. Not having a functioning ticket office doesn't help matters though.
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v West Bromwich Albion (a) - 13/1/24
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
If it was really even JDTs call. He spent all his first two windows telling us that ins and outs weren't his remit and those were handled above him. He just coaches the players he is given. Unless that's changed. -
He's on the best number he's ever had and will ever get. He'll keep on this ride until he's told to get off. Imagine spending years doing 'consultancy' work for crisis ridden lower league clubs like Gillingham and Southend, and running Charlton's Community Trust, then all of a sudden you are CEO of Blackburn Rovers in the Championship on fantastic money. To make matters even better you have absentee owners who have proven they don't care about performance so long as you do as you are told and don't complain you have a job as long as you want it. You have a fanbase beaten into submission who range from thinking you are good/honest/decent to those who simply don't care about anything beyond 3pm to 5pm every other Saturday. You've now even managed to layer the operation so that any football related problems can be batted off to Broughton and JDT and no longer any of his business. As ever responsibility lies with the owners to move him on as he is well past his sell by date but they're happy just to keep plodding on. What they don't want is the trouble of finding someone else who might actually want to haul the club forward or have expectations of them.
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That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Do you remember the myth that was trotted out with some regularity about Venkys from 2012 to 2021 each transfer window that if we were in the promotion shake up they would undoubtedly 'go for it' and bankroll what we needed to 'get over the line' and the only reason they hadn't up to that point was because we had never been in a really good position in the table to strike? Their antics (or lack of) in the last two January windows have proven that to be false, another Venky myth that is free and easy to spread with vague future promises of doing things but with absolutely no intention of it actually coming to pass. I'm glad that particular one has been torpedoed. They were never going to bankroll it and they never will. Of course their stooges on the ground, desperate as they are to shield the owners from blame, responsibility or criticism for the organisation they own, control, finance, continue to do their best to concoct various reasons and excuses in a desperate bid to lay the blame for this elsewhere, but I think even the most patient and trusting of people have seen through it by now. If you aren't going to back your manager with the team in the position it was in 2022 and 2023 then you never will. And that inertia has cost us at very least a play-off position in the last two seasons. The managers did their bit, the players did theirs, they were let down by owners who take no interest and have no intention of providing the additional backing needed at the right time to haul us over the line. We've had FFP rules, we've had 'not the right time to do business', we've had 'players moving goalposts on demands', we've had 'club secretary forgetting how to do his job', we've had 'Football League asking unnecessary and unexpected questions', we've had 'Indian government bullying poor Venkys', we've had 'CEO and owners rep decide to travel to Birmingham for a cup replay rather than ensuring more important business got done at Brockhall' and I'm sure there are other examples of the nonsense they come up with to try to explain why money doesn't go out and good signings don't come in. It just doesn't wash anymore. I'd have a lot more respect for the people working there if they just admitted the truth which is the owners don't care and the budget is set in the summer and spent with no chance of an increase. -
That *was* the January Window
JHRover replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Morton clearly has something about him. He got a new long term Liverpool deal at the end of last season despite being injured so that shows that they see something there. To be fair to him he came here and at 19 played virtually every game in a side that was sat in the top 6 all season and should have got into the play-offs and the FA Cup semi so I don't think that is too bad. Since then has played every week and getting good reviews at a side outperforming us. I do think there is too high an expectation on players particularly in the middle of the pitch in terms of what they contribute. The same seems to have applied to Travis and before that many others who people expect to be able to do 'everything' well. Anyhow, almost at the mid-way point of the window and looks set to be another fiasco. Quickly managed to get the captain and one of the few experienced battlers in the side out the door to a promotion chasing team, tried to cover that up with the pointless signings of two more kids probably costing us nothing and since then another experienced player gone back to Bournemouth (admittedly might not be our fault but that's the risk you take when signing loans). As it stands, disastrous, again. -
Which ultimately benefits nobody but Venkys and Waggott. JDT worked wonders in the cups last season delivering a huge financial boost to the club and what did he get back as thanks for it?
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I'd say it is about right based on what I see and hear. Certainly the people I go to games with, go to the pub with beforehand and am sat / stood around during games have little to no interest in the owners. Quite happy to speculate and discuss new signings and team selections and moan at Tomasson, but absolutely no interest in what is going on in India or the boardroom. Never been a murmur of discontent about Waggott or the shadow man.
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Don't forget Gillingham under Scally as well.
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75% + of regular Ewood attendees don't give a stuff about the owners or board of Rovers so it would be a bit odd if they suddenly took an interest in a publicity stunt in North Wales and that influenced their attendance at this tie