How many players in the entire squad do people think are good enough for championship level?

You could go with the following Raya Lenihan Mulgrew Williams Nyambe Reed Rodwell Bell Dack Palmer Graham A 3421 formation so that teams have to mark 2 players in the Dack position which could create some space for either of Dack of Palmer. If you wouldn't go with the back 3 then play a 4321. This is all if Dack has to play.

Go with a midfield of Reed, Palmer and Rothwell and you'll get done all day long. Why does Dack have to start? Is it to keep his price up because it certainly isn't on performances. Go with Raya Nyambe Lenihan Mulgrew Travis/Bell Bennet Reed Rodwell Rothwell Brereton Graham Subs: Leutwiler, Williams, Evans, Smallwood/Travis, Palmer, Armstrong, Dack

I think the only reasons for some of the reaction is the manner of how we are approaching games. At Preston we played 4-6-0 don't care what anyone says. That's what we did. Then at Wigan we start slow and at 1-0 down at half time. We bring on a defender for our only forward. It comes across as sabotage and frankly takes the piss out of any supporters who travelled to both games. If you were to "experiment" with something in your day to day working job and it back fired massively. Not only would an inquest be taken into why you've done it. You'd likely be sacked for misconduct. This situation is very similar. After 2 years the manager doesn't know his best formation or team. This is shown in the recruitment in the summer also. He goes on about playing a passing game yet 85%-90% of all our passes are long ball. He's a shit version of Sam Alardyce. At least you knew with him you'd hardly concede. This guy looked good in league 1 but any Saturday/Sunday league manager with their level 1 badges would have gone up in that league. We probably had a wage bill that equalled the entire bottom 10-12 clubs combined

On thin ice for me. Not mainly for the results but for the fact this team can do more and his set up is delusional at best and ignorant to criticism. It's almost like the more you say it doesn't work, the more he will push these silly tactics. Be humble and set the team up simple. If he can't do that in the next 5 games then let him go. Anyone who goes "but who will we get" you forget this is a big club in the second division that will pay a good wage. We aren't a conference club....... yet.

If I was 100% honest I'd need to go into the negative numbers. The only player who didn't deserve to loose was the goalkeeper.

Raya - 7 Nyambe - 4 Rodwell - 4 Mulgrew - 4 Bell - 2 Smallwood - 3 Evans - 4 Reed - 4 Armstrong- 3 Dack - 3 Graham - 4 Williams - 2 Brereton - 4 Conway - 5 (only on for 15 minutes)

Raya Nyambe Rodwell Mulgrew Travis Bennet Reed Evans Rothwell Graham Brereton Simple 442 with each player putting 100% in. Keep it simple. Dack has already left we are only paying his contract now

Is Mowbray trying to stick one to the owners for potentially spending 7m on a player when he had his own targets? I can't understand this setup or subs. It's like self sabotage.

Wigan players just thrown an elbow and then seconds later tackled from behind. Come on ref.

Can't agree with the 2 and 1/2 artists and the rest being soldiers. Armstrong isn't good enough to be starting he's dangerous when given space but you can tell he's never been a winger. Can't justify Smallwood starting. I admire being loyal but loyalty will often lead to a downturn in results. What message is being sent when you know you'll be starting the next game regardless. Lucky to be 1 down. Team is playing far to deep and predictable. We've two centre halfs who have played midfield so why aren't we playing a passing game. Their big centre half has Graham and Dack in his pocket in the air. Swap Reed with Smallwood Take Smallwood off for Rothwell Give Armstrong 10 more minutes then if nothing happens. Get him off for Brereton.

Need to play more. Less of the long ball into their 6'7 centre back. Okay it around him and you'll get some luck.

If that was the case why only give him 20m-25m a game? Also why sub him on to play out wide. I think it's down to the managers decision and being to loyal to certain players.

Should play something like this Raya Nyambe Lenihan Mulgrew Bell Reed Rodwell Smallwood Rothwell Graham Armstrong/Brereton Just to catch a team off. At the moment you can name 8/9 players from Monday morning for the weekend's game and it become predictable. People may say how can you drop Dack but he's not been performing recently. Even for the potential kick up the backside it may have on him for future games could be worth it alone. Also Rovers had some good performances against good teams in this league without Dack playing. Have a bit of faith in other players.

Couldn't give any less of a toss about what the manager or the club say. Actions speak louder than words. Play to best team possible, get 100% from each player and if we aren't good enough then we aren't good enough. A lot of my frustration with recent games is that we are playing poor sides with a handicapped start where we should be winning these games or competing at the least. Like someone else said earlier. You won't get 1000s of fans back at a time from just gaining promotion from league 1. Get back to the top league or even make this season exciting towards the business end and fans will come back. Less bullshit, more action.

To be fair. After a hammering against a poor Preston side, the last thing I'd want Mowbray to do is think about this game. He'll come up with some brilliant idea that is beyond the players ability. Keep it a simple 4231. Give Dack and Graham a go together. Play players in their position and see where it takes us. It's the players performances not the formation that is letting the club down. If Dack doesn't have a good game it's up to the other 9 outfield players to step up.

That shouldn't be an issue when the club seems to be able to spend £7m on a teenage gamble. I think the club has missed a trick in not picking up some of the better players from the division below. Another example is the lad at Ipswich in Edwards. He would have added pace and balance to this team also. Buying buar should happen as well. All three could have been bought for around £3.5m-£4m. Let's be honest £5m-£10m in today's market is pocket change and that's being kind.

Still think it should be either kieffer Moore or John Marquis from league 1. Both wouldn't cost the earth and to me the squad needs filling out for get some lads who give you 6 out of 10 a week with a Dack or two giving you that star quality.

The managers one and only job is to get the best out of the team for the benifit of the club and it's fans. If he wants to play footie manager and fantasies about being pep guardiola then simply bin the guy off. Do the job properly or go.

Team I would like to see Raya Nyambe Lenihan Mulgrew Bell Evans Rodwell Brereton Dack Rothwell Graham Team the manager will pick Smallwood Lenihan Rodwell Mulgrew Bennet Evans Raya Reed Conway Palmer Armstrong Dack Fuck it that team will play football so clever Wigan will forfeit the game Score prediction 5-0 Rovers

Your presuming money will be available in January. To buy a championship striker will require another 7--8 million which isn't going to happen. This Brereton that signed was because of potential resale value. Nothing else. It's make do time and the manager needs to earn his money. I think the league position is very misleading and can look very different within the next 4 weeks.

“In my opinion, he’s 33 and hadn’t done any training and the right thing to do in my opinion was to leave him on the bench and not expose him to try and get 90 minutes" That right there pissed me off. The only thing that wasn't right today was how you didn't go out 100% for a result today for the fans who travelled. Fuck if he wasn't ready. Play your other striker and give it a go. He wants nailing for that comment completely.

Come on pal. The manager has completely dodged the question and the reporter has let him. He's allegedly 7 million pounds worth of striker sitting on his bench as well as a converted winger/striker on the pitch. Not good enough.

Questions I'd like the manager to answer after this game. 1: why choose to play no striker from the start of the game. What benefits did he see from it. 2: why has Dacks form fallen of a cliff over the last 6 weeks. Does he get a free pass? 3: What was the reason for signing Brereton? Improve our profits or our team quality? 4: Do you think the fans deserve better? And what should our aim be this season? 5: Why can we beat a stoke away or compete with a WBA away but then fall to bits against lesser teams in Preston and Bristol city? 6: How are you going to improve resent performances? Results matter yes but you get found out eventually when performances are poor 7: Is Dack behaving in a professional manner that will benifit the team. Or has his head been turned? Question 7 is to people on here. Personally there have been far far far better players than Dack who have played for Rovers who have left and the team and club have continued on. If he doesn't 100% want to be here tell him to jog on with his Essex mates. He'll go down the David Bentley route and become a forgotten man soon enough.

Questions I'd like the manager to answer after this game. 1: why choose to play no striker from the start of the game. What benefits did he see from it. 2: why has Dacks form fallen of a cliff over the last 6 weeks. Does he get a free pass? 3: What was the reason for signing Brereton? Improve our profits or our team quality? 4: Do you think the fans deserve better? And what should our aim be this season? 5: Why can we beat a stoke away or compete with a WBA away but then fall to bits against lesser teams in Preston and Bristol city? 6: How are you going to improve resent performances? Results matter yes but you get found out eventually when performances are poor 7: Is Dack behaving in a professional manner that will benifit the team. Or has his head been turned? Question 7 is to people on here. Personally there have been far far far better players than Dack who have played for Rovers who have left and the team and club have continued on. If he doesn't 100% want to be here tell him to jog on with his Essex mates. He'll go down the David Bentley route and become a forgotten man soon enough.