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Surely nobody can be surprised. Next level down the spiral. Group of players worse than those before. Result..... exactly as expected. Venkys out. Pasha out.

Closer than that Rev Stephen Horner lives in Brindle.

Terrible side this. Not even one sniff of a decent attempt. Relegation fodder Dismantled by our owners.

The club has created this issue. They have closed down all communication forums and chose to hide behind a group of unelected fans who are happy to have their autograph books signed. Our club is in serious existential difficulties which requires elected fans who are prepared to hold them to account. If the club will only speak the FF then the FF members need to be radically overhauled.

Looking like 4 weeks again, like last time. Club will be expecting that all attention will be buried by a new signing and the KO off to the new season. It will (again). O2G has gone into hiding, too embarrassed to make excuses or explain the only forum of club communication, which he chairs. This is years in the making of cosying up to the club for personal super fandom. Time for change, if this is how the club dictates it will (only) communicate with the entire fanbase.

I was certain the next word was going to be horse

The root cause of the delays are due to O2G writing false minutes (standard practice) and then being pulled ujp on them, by fans with far more concern for the wellbeing of the club. O2G out.

Fans Forum minutes not published after 3 weeks. However they have been busy writing their new Fan Engagement Plan, to tick the EFL box. Absolute drivel but confirms WATR are not involved and the FF will be the only communication. https://share.google/Lqy0OYVicpXSka7Tm

400 pages Should get to 700 by the end of the window, about nothing. Managed decline continues. Venkys out is the only thing that matters.

It is also worth remembering. The club won THE top EFL award for fan engagement last season. Number 1 out of all the EFL.... That was largely for something conceived and implemented by fans, the very same fans, the club then fucked over and stopped all communication with. They are a complete set of self serving cunts who need expediting out of our proud club.

I think this is wrong, certainly as far as making any complaint goes. There isn't one fan group, there are many. The club would argue the FF is representative of the most diverse range of fans. Many of the attendees represent specific fan groups. An example is K-Hod represents this forum and opemly asks if any members wish any questions to be asked. Duncan represents WATR as another example. So the club will continue to comply at the most basic level (tick) which most of us find unacceptable. We will need to read their new Fan Engagement Plan when it gets published. My opinion is the only way to get them, is for the Fans Forum to have a vote of no confidence in the current process. Perhaps also to say they will not attend further meetings until the open, recorded, consultation meetings are reinstated. No FF meetings mean the club cannot fullfil its obligations, as it has left itself with all its eggs in the FF basket. However that won't happen because some of the attendees hold a vastly different personal opinion to the vast majority of fans. Glen, How many of the fans forum members are part of groups within the coalition or individually support it ?

Everyone in Spain. Be a couple of weeks before anyone can edit them.

Based on last time they will be out in about 4 weeks. Of course they should be published within 48 hours but those attending know the information so no rush. Takes a long time to concisely write up (edit) 3 hours into 2 pages for the peasants.

Venkys wanted to send money in April. They have been impeded from doing so for the past 2 months. What do you not grasp. ? And yes, by and large they are choosing not to and let the club fund itself. However, as proven, when they need to, there are significant impediments.

Several impediments. 1. Having to apply to the court to send funds - or they can't. 2. Having to put 100% previously or 50% this time into a bank guarantee. 3. Getting into court in the first place. In this instance, they applied 26th March to be able to transfer urgent funds to cover April-June essential outgoings. 2 months to get into court. So in theory next month they need to request transferring funds to coverJuly-Sept outgoings. They won't do. Q3 is being funded by player sales and (probably) transfer installments, aided by more cost cutting (downgrading). 100%

Well on the way to 600 pages.

Don't forget we need to sell to fund our transfer budget (Gestede interview). Probably around 3 to be sold, just a case of which 3. Hedges may be one.Brittain and Pickering ? The most likely scenario is 1 first team player per position with an U21 as backup (pathways). This is only the first season of a 3 year project to maybe challenge again in 3 years (Gestede interview). Priority is self sustainability (purgatory) with the owners putting no more funds in. Well they can't, even if they wanted to.

Agree but then so do they. As publically announced, after June 30th we will have a clear out, promote from the academy and start an exciting 3 year project to hopefully challenge again in 3 years.

No. Because you attend to represent BRFCS members. And because you specifically said that you would.

@K-Hod It appears O2G now has gone full on protcting the regime, saying ST numbers were not discussed and are not in the minutes. Therefore please now confirm the number as per your earlier committment to do so.

@only2garners whilst we wait for the chair to get round to it, please can you tell your fellow forum members and fellow Rovers fans, simply the number of STs which were reported sold. Please just type the number. Thanks.

@K-Hod according to his post in the other thread, O2G does not know but concludes it will probably take a while. The question isn't when you will see the minutes. You attended on behalf of the forum members. You already know what was said but are choosing to keep it from your members. More than enough time has passed. Regardless whether or not the delay is from the club or the chair, it is not acceptable to take this long to update members / fellow supporters. Please tell us the Number of STs sold which was given at the meeting.

Thanks @K-Hod The reason I am asking you specifically, rather than the others is (please correct me if I am mistaken) that you attend to represent this forum and its members ? When can we expect to find out as a backstop to further delays of the club publishing the minutes ?

@K-Hod please can you let us (BRFCS members) know if you have a mental deadline to tell us the ST number reported to you at the FF. Or will you just wait indefinately until the minutes are eventually published ?