Hhmmm how best to explain this.... Think of Steve as Pinocchio Strings go up into the shadows Think of Suhail as Geppetto

The problem (for them) is if they are honest in the ST window, sales tank when they basically need.... cash. So they have told a whopper to deflect attention and made the ST window only 1 month long to maximise sales before the cat escapes its bag. We did all know that, right?

WATR support the club 100% but yeah agreed, not many others.

This sounds like you are working for the club now. Time for self reflection imo.

Correct but they won't. MG said, they won't be confrontational with the club. Nicely tucked in Waggotts back pocket. Waggott won't reinstate the consultation meetings because they meet the fanboy forum and WATR which allegedly represent the fanbase. Neither do. WATR starry eyed and hamstrung by their MOU. What a disgrace. I recommend people cancel their memberships until the MOU is ripped up, the trust wake up and start holding the club to account. Venkys Out is the only way.

They are only allowed to send running costs (if approved). See November court document as reference. HMRC, Wages and Bills. Transfer money is not a necessity (in the eyes of the Enforcement Directorate). They cannot just ask to send what they want.

This is part of the process. They can only send funds which are essential and proven, after the court agrees. If you look at the court docs from the last transfer you will see the itemised request from the club of essentials. Wages, taxes, bills. This is the request which has been sent. i.e. if the club doesn't request funds, there is no court case. In court, the judge will rule on the request and if agreed, the transfer can be made as long as they put the same amount away in the bank guarantee. If the judge says no, for example if the ED case has more evidence, then we get nothing. If the hearing is delayed (again) we get nothing. FACT.

Southgate needs to be sacked tomorrow. Pure luck. Not making subs was criminal.

July salaries covered now. Just the electric bill to worry about.

Clearly you are nodding away at the club's propoganda words without the ability to think about it yourself. Go on then, we are going to be spending millions because Steve said. Lets watch this uninhibited funding unfold together. No excuses mind, like "we didn't need any money sending because the Wharton income was paying the bills. They could have if they needed to". Actions not words Sleepy Joe.

You are dreaming. Why are you completely ignoring the facts ? We don't have any beans until after Aug 20 or after we sell.

270 minutes I won't get back. Awful

There is no Raya money. He's still a Brentford player until at least June 30 or maybe even another year. Wharton money - bills, wages, HMRC. Aug 20 in court. No money until at least after that.

Don't be silly. Unless they are 12yo we don't have any money to buy anyone. Unless of course we stop paying the bills and the wages.

Less STs sold Far Less Adult tickets More kids Far less net income The end of the cheap tickets argument / experiment. Nil point. Last time they will be doing that. And when the season kicks off... the starting price for a Rovers ST is now £449. Considering "20 is Plenty" then it is less than £20 per game so good value.

Exactly. This is the point continuely missed. Easily 8000 do not go because of the owners. Each one was broken at different times by different events. For me it was the Lambert fiasco. Personally, I will go back as soon as they go and there are a good few more. But as Matty often says many have got too old, passed, found new things to do, stopped giving a shit, even one has taken to watching Man U. They won't go back of course. Nevertheless, they do not go because of the owners and won't go back for cheap ticket bribes. So unfortunately we will plod along with those 7/8/9000 STs until they leave as there is no other scenario. Fingers crossed for a 20th August ban on sending money to VLL.

Words words words. This season is different to last season. The £30 reduction means only an idiot who intends to buy will not take advantage. In 2 days the price goes up by £80 and there will be no ongoing sales. So if 7500 is smashed, it is also a net loss of MANY ST holders & it is certainly a hell of a long way from entry into the £10K for 10K competiion.... cough. Not to mention that there will be significant growth in kids tickets = even bigger loss of adult tickets = massive reduction in revenue. What a self induced disaster.

It has nothing to do with the price. It is entirely because of the owners. Bizarre how ST holders pretend to understand why we won't go back. I suppose its better than the resignation that nothing can be done about it. Anyway. 20th August.

The problem this summer is the money can't be reinvested into the squad. It is needed to pay bills, wages & HMRC. The Owners can't send any money due the restrictions from their Investigation by the Enforcement Directorate, without applying to the court. Next hearing is scheduled for Aug 20th so until (at least) then it is illegal for them to send any money. This means the club has to use its own funds (generated from transfers) to pay all of it's operational running costs. If the date is delayed again or they get refused permission to transfer running costs, we will only be playing next season until the emergency credit runs out in the meter. So the discussion about reinvesting transfer income or not seems fairly pointless.

Lets be honest, not many folk are going to decide to wait until phase 2 and pay an extra 80 quid. It seems too daft for words. More so for anyone choosing the finance option. So June 22 is the deadline when we will know the true number of ST holders. 3000 is a long way off 9500 and a million miles off 12000. Only a Marquee signing or two would create a surge (laughing emoji) but otherwise, I will say "almost 6000" (more being U12) so a bit of a disaster for Suhail and Steve.

1200 in 12 hours has no meaning or context. Even if the entire 9500 bought in the first 12 hours it would still be 9500. The fact is they have been very clever here and have well and truely fucked WATR. The pricing isn't attractive. The pricing is attractive to buy in phase 1 or not at all. However everything else at the club is rotten. We are selling just to pay the bills (downgrading the squad) and cutting costs further. When the ST sales have not increased and revenue is down, they will say to WATR, "see told you, cheap tickets don't work. Proven." Actually the primary reason will be the off field Venky shit show driving sensible fans away. The only thing I find amusing is, with 18000 empty seats. They will let kids in at £12 (bum on a seat) but they won't let adults in for £200. There appears to be a conflict here which makes no sense. Whilst I see that a kid needs an adult, I don't see any evidence of new adults going just because they can take their kid for £12. More kids will certainly go but less adults. Revenue will be down. Club will say "told you". The season will be dire. More adults will walk away. More costs will be cut. The reversal only starts when the Raos have left the club. Fact.

This is just a stunt to get everyone to buy in the first month. That means they are already comitted when the transfer window unfolds, the reality sinks in & expectations are announced as avoiding finishing bottom. 3000 will probably fall for it.