Mashed Potatoes

And Mowbray wins the game.

A fair point but I suppose the question has to be : does he go so far with his behaviour that his players lose all respect for him and effectively down tools. Based on their result last night after his behaviour at the end of our game the answer may well be yes.

Warnock's Middlesbrough lose 0-3 at home to Rotherham.

You probably were not aware but Morsy is unpopular here because his challenge put Dack out for a year when he was at Wigan.

A very fair post - you are very welcome here. Do you think you will get in to the playoffs ?

We are the tough boys now and Warnock is crying his eyes out - it's how you win. Ask Roy Keane and Greame Souness.

I suggest you invest in a pocket calculator.

Simply untrue. We are conceding at a lower rate than the previous 2 seasons.

I thought the criticism of us was that we were too nice.

I wonder what would be said if that was Mowbray.

Beautiful - just beautiful.

Yes, we were much the more imaginative side; Warnock's team just lumped crosses in to the box.

He's a similar style of player to Vardy in that he's best suited to a counter attacking team. Worth remembering that at his age Armstrong is some way ahead of where Vardy was.

What's Derek Shaw doing these days ?

With respect "top drawer executives" expect to receive a great deal more than £300k.

Mate, he's been fired from his last 2 jobs because he was judged to be getting his teams relegated. Poor tactics, poor judgement in the transfer market - £15m on Berahino. He's a busted flush at club level and is best advised to hang on for the Wales job which may well soon be available.

Not really. According to Wikipedia since he left us in 2008 he has managed clubs for 381 games. Some of those will be in cup competitions but in those games he has won 134 and drawn 96 which on a points per game basis is 1.307 per game. Currently this season we have 33 points from 24 games which is 1.375 points per game which I keep hearing from here is not good enough. So how is Mark Hughes good enough ?

He had Stoke on a Coylesque 20 points from 22 games when they got rid of him and based on what he then did for Southampton no way would he have kept Stoke up. Your concerns do not bother me, I'm afraid.

He left Stoke because he had put them in the relegation zone from which they did not recover, and was sacked from Southampton because he had put them there as well-fortunately his successor saved them.

He can do for them what he did for Stoke and Southampton.

Seems only yesterday people on here were holding him up as an example of a manager who knew what he was doing.

Thanks. Regarding the postponement go on to the Swansea match thread and you will see Mowbray getting the blame - apparently due to Sam Hart getting a 1 month extension on his contract. We have a lot of young players and I think patience is the right way forward - I have no sympathy whatever with those who post to the effect that John Buckley is not a footballer. As I said the problem is getting that first goal - we are not perfect and I agree with you on the set pieces but those should not be a massive problem. I think last season we got more early goals than anyone else.

I would certainly be prepared to give him until the end of the season. I know people are frustrated with things but I do think that there has been some improvement; right now our problem is getting the first goal in games - when we do we go on and win. We are a bit like Leicester in that we are at our best when the opposition are pushing on against us ; unlike Leicester we have not yet advanced to the position of making it more difficult for the opposition to get that first goal and having the ingenuity in midfield to open the opposition up to score it. However I don't think we are a million miles away - particularly as we have a lot of young players. What I am simply not going to do is join those who find fault with everything - the latest being blaming the manager for a game being postponed.

If we haven't improved defensively why are we conceding fewer goals per game than the last 2 seasons ?

It will have been disappointing -yes.