Over a year ago,Mowbray said we needed 2 goal keepers, a centre back and left back. We had a year to select our targets. Had we acted decisively, we could have had Marshall, Robinson and Kipre off Wigan in the first week of the transfer window.

Making them free would make more sense. @Hoochie Bloochie Mama No, the club will go into administration and Venkys will leave. The only way Venkys will leave is if they are forced. The only means fans have to force that is to 'vote with their feet' and withhold all their cash going into the club.

I see,so Nyambe's contract expiring at the end of next June comes as a surprise, does it? The only fitness issue is that Nyambe wants a contract that fits with his importance in the team.

West Brom have other needs. One they've got over the line. They've had one bid rejected. They're working on another and have Troy Deeney in their sights. Kipre will just have to wait whilst West Brom sorts out its needs. We know what Kipre wants. Personally,I'd take the contracts down to whichever hotel West Brom have put Kipre up in and get his signature and forget about a medical. Our fitness guys and gals will work out a regimen based on his fitness needs, anyway.

Toni Borevkovic and Connor Oglivie were defenders mentioned in the January window.

Perhaps @Wegerleswiggle was referring to the thought 'isn't it a wonder' ... that we're making a signing.

Watt's the excitement for?

Nuttall scored 2 goals in 13 appearances in 13 league one games. he scored 4 goals in 9 cup games. He scored 2 goals in 15 championship league games. Brereton's 2 goals in the Championship have come in 40 games. Nuttall had a better strike rate in our U23s than Brereton had in Forest's. Statistically , Nuttall is the better player. Wheerre Nuttall doesn't score over Brereton is his confidence. Nuttall's confidence was not robust enough to withstand Mowbray's man-management method, Brereton's is. Nuttall's not likely to succeed at any level, unless he finds an atmosphere that is conducive. I don't see Brereton as currently being Championship standard, though with any player that cost as much as he did, one hopes for the best.

Does this mean we;'re not selling Brereton? All this bigging him as a football player got my hopes up. I could have sworn we signed him as a striker to score goals, not miss open ones. He's even done the two year obligatory video saying how much he loves it here and how he's looking forward to the challenge. It all makes sense now. That mysterious £10m bid was for him, but we've turned it down. Hoffman's misses can never equal Brereton's.?

RB and then wide right of the 4 when the U23s switched to 3-4 at the back.

Mowbray changed the formation to accommodate Dack not playing. Armstrong needs the freedom to roam up front. Playing Holtby and Dack and the 4-3-3 becomes 4-1-2-1-2. We don't have the personnel to play a natural, standard 4-3-3. The Celtic player is probably McBride, who is another who looks like a faint breeze would blow over.

This formation does not suit Armstrong, Travis or Dack. Why is Mowbray persisting with a formation in which our three star men do not fit?

Nor is Nathan Delfouneso

Other teams in the division sell their players. Mowbray hasn't had to sell. We operate a strict wages policy, so it's not that we can't compete, but that we won't. It would increase the losses.We could match West Brom's wage offer to Kipre. Some policies are meant to be broken for the right player. Of all Kipre's prospective centre back partners, who is the best? I'd go with Lenihan. Derby County are unique. They sell their ground for twice its book value.Then they sell it again, this time on a lease back. Their owner must have slipped the football team the ground back, whilst no one was looking. Brentford's money ball approach only works as long as suitable replacements for players that are to be sold can be sourced.That isn't the case this year. To add to @Ewood Ace's list: Bristol City, Reading, Middlesborough, Huddersfield, Cardiff, Swansea, Barnsley, Stoke, Brentford (I note Ewood Ace has already added to his list in other posts) Forest, Watford, Norwich, Bournemouth, Derby, Forest's owner has issues hanging over him from Greece. Watford probably need to sell before deciding whether to use transfer money on wages.Bournemouth have sold and could use that money to bring in players. Norwich looks to have brought in all the players they want and so are unlikely to be competing with us for players. There has to be a limit to the number of times Derby can sell its ground to cover wages.

@Paul Mani has assured us that Mulgrew is leaving in this transfer window. Mowbray has the gift of the gab, when it's something he wants. He'd better want Kipre here.

Think it's a certainty that we've offered Kipre a starting place and first team football.

Tomorrow? I'd be wanting to get Kipre's signature and medical done this evening.

Club probably tried to. Difficult to do, if it's the player's agent starting shopping him around to premier league clubs.

Story by Alan Galindo 16 Jul 2020 in the Sun based off a story in the Daily Mail online (15/07/20) by Adrian Kajumba about West Ham making an enquiry about Kipre.

Kipre's played for the Ivory Coast U23s and holds dual nationality.

We didn't fight FFP, when we got hit by it first time. Because we didn't fight it and just accepted it, we can be hit again at any time, if the league thinks there's cause. All part of the rules.

My XI Fisher JRC Lenihan Williams Bennett Travis Evans Chapman Brereton Armstrong Gallagher Fisher and Williams for the shop window.Expect JRC and Bennett to move up either side of the 2. Not a 4-3-1-2 because Travis and Evans don't fit in it. I'd rather have a new LB signed before Friday. Bennett over Bell because we've gone two periods of a game with Bennett on the field without conceding. I'll take a win and a clean sheet.

Do you really not get it or are you being deliberately obtuse? @J H Rovers knows we've let 7 go. He said so. it's those 7 squad slots that need filling. In particular, he argues we need to be able to turn to experience when it's late in game and we need to make something happen. That experience doesn't currently exist in the squad. There's plenty more deadwood that needs to be cut out: Bell, Bennett, Williams, Mulgrew, Johnson and Holtby. Mulgrew and Johnson because they've fallen out with Mowbray and Holtby because I don't see there being a role for him, here, long term. There's an argument to be made that cutting midfielders with us being cash strapped is not the smartest idea. Your hot tips on goalkeepers turned out to be wide of the mark. I expect your position and players to be wide of it , too. I see LB as being the pressing need before Friday. I think we're flogging a dead horse with Cunningham. The CBs we've got are enough to beat Doncaster. Wharton is better than Lindsay. I can see where @Mike E is coming from. If a player is one we want , we should go and get him evenif it's higher than it might be later. if Kipre is one we want, we should go get him,now. Of course,there could be some discussion as to whether Kipre is one of the 'men' Mowbray wants at CB. Davenport is not 'ready made' for anything. Buckley seems too lightweight and Rothwell seems to have lost confidence. A key point of pre-season games is to gauge match fitness.Unfortunately, for our fitness trainers, none of our players has completed 90 minutes. Mowbray still hasn't learnt that it isn't for keeping his squad happy. I don't see this as being a buyers market. Only Norwich who've gone out and signed 11 have made it look like it is. Especially in this financial climate, I cannot see teams willing to drop their valuation of players. Free agents don't have much incentive to drop their wage demands unless they're guaranteed first team starts. I think you've fundamentally misread this market.

@chaddyroversWe clearly read different things.?

I hope not. Of all the formations Mowbray has tried, 4-3-3 seems to me to be the one suited to the fewest members of the squad. All three of our strikers would be playing out of position. I read the formation in the first half against Fleetwood was 4-3-1-2 and 4-2-3-1 in the second. The Bayern Manager chose 4-2-3-1 and the players and tactics just flowed thereafter. They just won the Champions League. They demolished Barcelona who play the dominating possession football Mowbray likes so much. I try to accommodate Mowbray's wanting a formation other than 4-2-3-1, but if it works, why change it?