Yes i'm all for protecting the assets but they jumped the gun there based more on the hype than anything, he obviously looked good in training but had about half a dozen good first team performances to his name. Can only assume it was on modest money and that's why he's still here.

Just because he hasn't yet doesn't mean he won't do as long as it's on the table.

Problem with him now as i see it is he knows he's a back up player and his attitude matches that, how often does he give away needless free kicks or open his mouth at the ref when hes committed one ? 5 year contract tailed him off imo.

Well there won't be 100,000,000 of them i can tell you that.

Christ people have been saying the same about Buckley for years it's about time the penny dropped. He's had numerous chances to stake his claim but never has he's now on the 3rd gaffer who'll likely see him as 3rd or 4th choice back up.

They TURNED DOWN an offer of outside money to run the women's team these people WOULDN'T be redundant if they'd taken that on board. They've relegated their own women's team into the 4th tier pull your head out your a##.

Ironically the one given 5 years to secure the asset was the one who almost instantly fell away the most and i personally think there is a connection. It did come under the Mowbray and Venus regime though so not that surprising.

Apart from giving an Indian govt dept who doesn't want them sending ANY money abroad millions and millions they might never see again, before a rupee has landed at the club itself. I have a grain of understanding the reluctance on that but zero sympathy as it's another self created problem that is dragging the club down....again. Billionaires, huge business, many whizz kid accountants and solicitors you'd expect now after about 4 yrs since they knew this was coming they'd have found a way around it or accepted the untenable situation and sold (or tried) to sell the club. However what advice and information have they had from this end in the SwagHail era ? 'Oh don't worry we have players to sell, costs to cut and then can grow more to sell from the academy under the right head coach.' In other words leave it to us we'll be fine but we really want to cling onto our jobs and gravy train which we know would end as soon as you sold it !

Yes sadly i think Championship level on a consistent basis has always been beyond him and he just had a little purple patch. He was never the most mobile anyway imo but he was a grafter and his engine was ok but that seems to have seized up. I like him but lads like him shouldn't be difficult to replace at this level for not much money and that is how you improve a squad by trading the JRC's and keep your best players. I look fwd to the million quid we'll get for him going on something a bit fresher......

Well we never know big Val might get a tune out of JRC if he can keep himself fit we might see shades of the JDT player again and that would be useful.

I don't even know what to say to this other than think again because it's fantasy stuff. Players are only worth what someone will pay and you might get a million for the pair but i'd suggest they'd need to follow Markandays path and be loaned lower league, hopefully do well and someone would chuck a few hundred grand down to keep them. If they were put up for sale tomorrow nobody would be bidding.

No one is going to pay money for either so both will be here till their contracts run out. As usual at this club better ones get let go or sold whilst the others are allowed to stay on the gravy train when it should be the other way around. The likes of those two are the first ones who should be traded for younger fresher cheap potential or academy grads whilst the best players should be retained way before their contracts begin to tick down. Shambles.

Hes never been offered a new contract, his own words,

Derby in for Travis now he obviously has the 'for sale' sign around his neck.

Travis made comments 6 months ago about not being offered anything but was quite relaxed about it, meaning iv'e got my agent exploring other options. The club purposely create these situations it's one of the oldest tricks in the book and a gentle nudge towards a potential incoming transfer fee. If no serious bid comes in they say ok here's the same or less terms to stay here but by this time the agent has convinced his player there'll be a deal to be had somewhere on a free with a signing on fee and maybe a loyalty bonuses owed from Rovers. So sit out your contract and here we are again.

Don't worry in another couple of years of managed decline they'll suddenly find the will and ablement to put 2 million quid in for a league 1 promotion push. Except this time we won't have retained a championship squad and wage bill.

Dolan compen already re-invested before its been paid and everyone is moaning. Who needs Gregg Broughton when you've got Rudy Gestede !

We've learned a lesson and so should the club. A top player is a top player and as long as he is fit and performing there should be no issue in wanting to keep them but this is all about the counterproductive self inflicted 'over 30' rule. ie no resale value so no value at all to the head office which deals in financial numbers not football ones and they give the orders.

Norwich must be in the 1/3 then, must be a fair old queue for his signature now.

He was pro active at least and a contrast to virtually everything under Venkys, Suhail and Waggot were react when you've carelessly let a situation develop was the order of the day' Or in other words do nowt unless you have to.

I'd be far happier keeping all three.

Even if Broughton was still here and on the case i don't think it would make much difference because they'd do the same to him as they do to all new managers, head coaches etc. Show the dog the rabbit and allow them a couple of quid to invest then slam the door shut and say you're on your own we have our own problems to deal with. In fact they did that to him. Same will happen with Gestede and Ismael they'll get a couple of million at very best - including wages - to spend. A player will be sold from under them at some point alongside several other departures then next time they go asking for money they'll be blanked. Rinse and repeat.

His value is at least an average championship wage going off the number of games hes now played and reflecting his age and future sell on potential. He'll have been way under that and is entitled to ask for as much as he wants it doesn't mean he wouldn't have settled for less but it's way too late now anyway. Another lad worth 2 or 3 mill going for nothing whilst his replacement will likely not be up too much but at least rigger and the other Dolan knockers are happy eh.

You can't guarantee anything because the guy has already stated he wants to stay here and according to font of truth Nixon Rovers have made him a decent offer but it's only a year. He wants two and according to Nixon Derby would match that but he didn't say if the terms were better or not. End of the day it might come down to Batth deciding if he stays here another year for a decent wage or gambles for lesser money but more security down there. Football wise though he'd be mad to leave here where he's almost guaranteed to be first choice as the season begins. Sometimes it can be as simple as they want to go on holiday and mull it over.

Behave yourself this lot paid the likes of Downing and Rodwell 20 grand a week and for what ? No investment no return just the odd seasons mainly mediocre football and now they are repeating it with Cantwell, also threw away a similar wage on 6 months of Dennis. How many million there straight down the pan yet they won't give our academy grads a championship contract because their starting wages are so low so the hike is seen as too much. Not much thought to actually signing them up then selling them a year later to re-invest. Stupid football club.