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I think we should take bets how long into the season post window shutting it takes for big Val to start using lack of experience as the go to excuse when things aren't going well ?

They found a good balance to share the goals/assists last season in those two plus Dolan and Weimann but now it's back to eggs in one basket whilst praying another couple of unproven types step up. Big big risk and needless to be honest because players are out there but these lot don't want to know unless it's 5 grand a week or less, free or a few hundred grand plus add ons and under 25. Useless policy without money.

What i can't believe is one or two posters on here doing the club PR work of saying we are fine with Gueye and Yuki as our main strikers this season. Beggers belief that and can only be toeing the club mantra of giving mins and increasing value being the number 1 priority over everything else. We NEED quality up top and failing that we need another hardworking presser with an eye for goal that isn't Leonard.

It's deffo an 'i don't want to get injured' type of performance so far.

You won't like to see or hear it but a pounding today will be a good wake up call to those clever arseholes who think they can fill the team up with cheap punts and kids.

Today was always going to expose the weak spots but the main thing is get through it with no injuries the result don't really matter.

When powers that be are terrified of losing grip to someone else, who might make a better job of it and expose the cack handed and possibly dodgy running of it they have been making for years, what do they do ? They always use fear spread by whatever means necessary. The willingly gullible always lap it up.

I actually think the scenario is they are prepared to sail as close to the wind as possible in order to keep the ship afloat but if/when the inevitable happens they'll find something else to blame it on.

If some 'golden generation' England managers had heeded those words we might have won something again by now.

Not if he's told from above that we owe future instalments and don't want to or can't pay them.

Absolutely nailed it here.

The initial fee quoted for Gueye when this BS first came out was c800k. Nobody is paying millions for him so there is no point whatsoever selling but this is skint Rovers where the budget gets cut summer on summer and what happened last year has little bearing on this. So anything could happen.

Weimann scored/assisted a handful Dolan scored assisted a handful Gueye..... That's now a lot of goals and assists.

Exactly, we need a big front lad like that in the squad it's what we've been missing for years. Whether he wants to stay at do that though is another matter.

I'd say so. 'No fee has been agreed but personal terms are being discussed' 'A 3 tear contract is on the table' etc Er... to talk personal terms to a player under contract a fee must first be agreed and permission granted, nobody goes public with stuff like that unless Rovers have agreed to release him already. So it whiffs of someone trying to drum up interest or it's tapping up.

A bit suspicious this Gueye stuff i wonder who is really putting it out there,

Not fit to hold Adam Wharton's jockstrap yet only 3 million cheaper. Stick a plodder in a world famous shirt and badge for a few mins and potential buyers go giddy.

They seem to have gone around the young British coach type route too often, guys who either guarantee nothing but stability or flop. If they'd gone for a JDT and backed him it could be a different story.

We've also seen Luton and Ipswich bounce through the Championship. If you can spend on quality to add to momentum surely you can do something although too many new faces could maybe disrupt that. Sadly like us Hull and Stoke are the ultimate going nowhere anytime soon clubs due to the idiots who run them, in some ways the Bet365 mob are the British version of early Venky's although you'd 'bet' on them getting it right sooner or later but they'll end up in the crap with FFP as well probably.

Actually i was about to say how good it would be if Eustace bailed on Derby for Wrexham mid season 😉

It's not about spending what you wish it's just being able to invest up front in the first year of a new cycle but no one seems to be a hundred percent sure how it all works so it's no wonder clubs fall foul of it. I'm not up to speed on any of it but i did read somewhere it's different rules in league 1 so presumed they might get a reset on promotion to the Championship although that wouldn't make much sense either. They are going to have to go some in the next few years to cover the fees and wages they are chucking around but with an average gate probably less than us.

Netflix, USA merchandise income etc, plus doesn't their new cycle start now they've been promoted ? Meaning they can spend big for now at least.

You aren't paying attention to the new club policy here. Best he'll be offered in another year on the same terms or maybe two years at a push but on less and he'll already be aware of this given whats happened.

He probably already knows he won't be offered anything beyond 12 months at a time so he's thinking ahead, i think that is closer to the truth.

Brum are on a roll cue the usual derogatory chants from clowns who've never been out of New Street before. Never mind the bods upstairs at Ewood will be delighted and have a line already to spin back to India 'look a 20k crowd' !!! For the record not long ago Brum were averaging about 16k and regularly used to bring sub 2k to Ewood - In the Prem.