Tomphil2

I'm under the impression due to bits said in the past by TM and bits in the press that Rovers contracts are heavily bonus related in order to incentivise. Maybe some of those sites use that in their 'estimated' guesswork.

Most sites are bollocks and in no realm do Venky Rovers throw kids on 2-3k a week onto double figure contracts. Lets all have some common sense on this the cost cutting has been going on for years now. Travis would have been gone years ago on a contract like that.

That means bugger all the top paid player at the time was Gallagher on about 15k signed years before for 5 million from a Prem team where he took a big pay cut but was offered 4 years at Rovers instead of 3. Then they extended his contract. Trav as an academy graduate won't have been in the same ball park but 10k a week would still be in the higher end bracket. Waggot and the other berk didn't want him sat on the bench every week on that money.

Eustace knows all this that's why hes been after virtually every half decent players we had. They have a budget and hes told them they can get cheap good standard Championship players from Blackburn due to low salaries.

There is no way Travis is on 15k pwk here, non and he isn't trousering 30k pwk at a club like Derby, no chance. He'll be on about 10k here ( anybody on that amount or more will be nudged towards the door). At Derby he'll get a bit more, a signing on fee plus offered a 3 or 4 year deal. No way was he offered that here either.

He just looks totally detached from it all his heart has never been in this job he's just the puppet those upstairs have been looking for to toe the line whilst they create the chaos.

So the anonymous director was there tonight, Venkys finance man surely no coincidence. No doubt instructing Gestede he must seek offers for anyone he can get a fee for.

The fact they've all been steered towards the door doesn't help either.

Absolute croc of crap but fully expected as they've taken a team that finished 7th, moulded by Eustace, smashed it up and replaced it with a squad of individuals. The first 11 will take time to gel but tonights back up players showed what they are, a combination of weak, nowhere near ready and quality lacking...squad of individuals coached by someone who doesn't seem to concerned with the lack of balance his tactics serve up. Out of that cup early is dire when all you exist for as a club is to develop kids and cheap talent as it's great for giving them mins but going out now might do us a favour. It's going to be a real tough one this season and it's all been created by the lords and their masters in the corridors yet again.

He'll end up going for about 1.8 million with a load of add ons that will be dressed up as 'a deal up to 2.5m' similar to what you say. How much of those extra add ons we'll actually see is another debate but my point here is Rovers are desperate to get rid because they've already spent on replacements. So there'll be no holding out for good money however it'll be dressed up as otherwise to fend of the critics.

If it's any 'thing' it's an arrogance thing. We'll do what we want, we are rich and powerful and can afford to chuck millions away keeping a famous old English football club afloat, just because we can. We own those Brit mofo's and they will dance to our tune as long as we like' That sort of thing.

So the countdown to Travis leaving has begun and no surprises its started at 1.5 million and won't get anywhere near some of the numbers expected on here in reallity. Under the cloak of 'undisclosed' and 'add ons up to' etc

Even if they find him another position in the club it's a fair old 'unsackable' statement again. He must have some gigantic pay off written into his contract or something.

Just numbers on a screen to them and will have had little to no impact on their business empire and personal wealth. In fact the 200 million plus is probably in counted as being in the portfolio rather than the debt column. So when some say hey these lot are worth 1.2 billion that .2 is little old Rovers by way of the VLL spread sheet....

Lowe must be very well in with someone who has the ears of Pune. Looked like Eustace tried to get rid but he was just sent on other duties then reappeared. Very odd stuff for a low level coach maybe Suhail himself is trying to get him reinstated after he was pushed out by VI and Gestede ?

Revolutionary. Did they not put a ten quid surcharge on for your nerve of just walking up and asking to buy !

Every club within 100 miles radius now has its big day out at Ewood.

Rather quiet recently.

It's almost a carbon copy of the last big fire sale that lead to relegation when you stand back and look at it and of course the younger Venky apologists in the fanbase won't have seen that or won't really remember it and how it all started. Add in the revolving head coach and staff door and directors and staff leaving or being shoved out whilst inside the club a novice from nowhere suddenly seems to be running everything. Only difference this time is players sold aren't being replaced by old men on tens of thousands per week. End result will probably turn out the same sooner or later though.

Then people will wonder why despite cutbacks the running costs don't come down. How many others are they still paying i wonder.

They run Rovers via the VH group profits though that is clearly how it's done and must provide some handy accounting benefits back in India. It's 15 years now since they bought Rovers so allowing for inflation, expansion, borrowings and the cost base explosion of raw materials needed to run that business profits are bound to be hit. It doesn't matter what it or they are worth they don't use their personal wealth unfortunately it is imo all about the profit from the core company and this isn't defending them it's just the reality of how things are done. Would be interesting seeing if there is any real correlation between share price/profit of VH group and the money they've chucked into Rovers. I'm sure i recall share prices at historical highs when they were allowing the Armstrong's and Gallagher's to be bought but i may be wrong. They have seemed to like funding a mass loss making overseas entity for some reason until recently though.

Another massive coincidence then that it comes just at the same time there's a can kicking down the road court contest going on. If there was no court case this last couple of years funding would STILL be severely reduced it's chicken business profit that runs Rovers and when there is non, there is no cash we've seen this before.

Millwall bid about 900k for him when he had plenty contract left and Ipswich took him, barely used him and didn't follow it up. It's been known over a year he wants his next contract as security be it here or anywhere else yet no concrete bids we know about. So yes we'll see in the next few weeks although we are unlikely to see 2 or 3 million but strange things occasionally happen.

Different scenario for Brittain he is a specialist in his position and was outstanding in his position last season so i assume interest went much further than just Boro and Derby but they were the only ones to try and force Rovers hand. Trav is a bread and butter defensive mid a type more akin to fighting fires than giving you a possible nudge towards promotion through assists and goals. I know Eustace is a big admirer they are cut from the same cloth but he won't pay silly money and beyond that who will ? What you say about the owners was correct up to a point but times have changed now and the needs are different. I don't believe for one min we'll be seeing 3.5 mill for Brittain either unless he has a long successful career at Boro that triggers all the add ons etc. I think a fee of around 2 million plus some realistic add on triggers will be nearer the true deal.

Doesn't make much sense forcing a relegation unless you want a complete reset of the whole operation and your owners can only or are only prepared to meet half the costs they previously have.........