Tyrone Shoelaces

I was disapointed with Grealish last night.All he seems to do is wander about with the ball looking to get fouled.

I saw Lofthouse play once at the tail end of his career. Very much like Shearer in style. He chased a long bouncing ball out onto the right wing. When he caught up with it he was about 3 yards in from the touchline and the byline. He just smashed the ball on the volley past an amazed goalie who thought it was going out and was getting set to take a goal kick !

Go on any other clubs message board and they’ll be saying exactly the same. I’m sorry but I’m too long in the tooth for this” Kings New Clothes “ malarkey. If I’ve just wasted two hours of my life watching a rubbish performance I’ll say so. That goes for Rovers equally. We can’t play this walking football. As soon as we upped the tempo late on we looked a better team all together.

Looks like the Beeb, Sky and ITV dodged a bullet. That was 2 hours of my life I’ll never get back. I’d rather have Mowbray than Southgate. That tells you how highly I rate him.

He was tremendous when he took over from Mick McGrath at left half for half a season. It gave him the opportunity to show his true all round footballing abilities. Centre half limited him somewhat. He’s still the best centre half I ever saw in the flesh.

I like Southgate as a person but as an England manager ? Never in a million years.

I forgot he was playing in the second half.

Best right back in the world at the 1962 World Cup.

Yep, everybody looked about 20 years older than they really were.

A pal of mine was an England international at schoolboy level. He played in the same team as Barry Bridges, Willy Carlin, Warick Rimmer, John Talbut etc. He was showing me his memorabilia one day and we came across a programme for Manchester Schools ( his team ) v Lancashire schools. F Pickering ( Blackburn ) was on the right wing for Lancashire schools believe or not ! I never had Fred down as a winger. If you remember Paddy Daly for Rovers he was in the Manchester team. My pal signed for United when he left school but he had a career ending knee injury at 17.

David Unsworth, who was talked about regarding the Roverd job, is the new manager at Oldham.

You missed a treat. We really went for it at 2-1 down. Bit different to todays lot. I remember getting in to Old Trafford about 5 minutes late and it was already 1-1. We were losing 2-1 with about 5 minutes to go and not looking like scoring so me and my pal decided to leave the game to find the coach. That game ended 2-2 !

I’ve lived around here ( Rochdale ) since I was 5 years old and the valley up from town through Whitworth, Facit, Britannia, Bacup etc has always been populated with mostly Burnley fans. Wether people could go Rovers is irrelevant, the fact is not many of them did.

Bacup and Whitworth have always been strongholds for Burnley. Back in the day I’d get the coach in Rochdale town centre and it would pick up lots in Whitworth and Bacup on the way to Burnley for games. I don’t recall any other Rovers fans getting on. I just kept my mouth shut and said nothing.

Jim Smith, who was Derby manager at the time, told the story that he’d heard that Hodgson was interested in Dailly. He passed it on to his chairman who said “ Remember Jim, not a penny less than £2 Million if they get on to you “. Apparently Hodgson’s opening offer was £5 Million and Jim Smith talked it up to £5.25 Million. £5 Million more than he was worth !

I should think so. Dailly was the pits. Awful player. What was Roy Boy thinking when he signed him ?

We’ve got a board ? Wow, when did that happen ?

Brown ?

Rovers v Everton 1962-63 season - Great games of the 1960’s. 47er mentioned the above game in the Luton thread but he had it a season or two later on. I went along to this as 13 year old kid on the old Ribble bus from Rochdale. It was played on Saturday Nov 17th 1962, a damp and cold afternoon. The pitch was a bit muddy but well rolled, at the beginning of the game anyway. Ex Rover Roy Vernon was captaining Everton and I remember watching him warm up and being impressed with the power of his shooting at goal. The first half was end to end but without a goal. Plenty of action around the goals but nothing on the score sheet. I’d been standing behind the goals at the Darwen End where Rovers were attacking but at half time I moved on to the half way line near the front of the Riverside. That was as far as I felt like going as there was a big crowd on with loads from Everton. ( 30,243 according to Mike Jackman ). The second half kicked off and after about 15 minutes Fergie got away down the right wing and crossed over a peach of a cross ball for Ian Lawther to head home. Lawther had the happy knack of being able to hang in the air and he easily out jumped Brian Labone, the Everton centre half. We’d only been in front for a few minutes when Everton got a corner. It was only half cleared and an Everton player fired the loose ball home through a crowded goal mouth. Fred Else in the Rovers goal totally unsighted. Rovers were shaken by that goal and within 5 minutes they had conceded another carbon copy of that type of goal. The ball fired through a crowded goalmouth with Else again having no chance. 2-1 down after being on top. Rovers were spurred into action by this and started to dominate the game again with Duggie pulling the strings in midfield. With about 10 minute to go Fred Pickering who was playing a similar role to what BBD plays for the current Rovers team got away up the left hand side and cut in down the goal line. With everybody, including Gordon West in the Everton goal, expecting a cross he fired the ball home from an acute angle. 2-2 and Rovers well on top. With only a minute or two to go Big Fred got away again in a similar position down the goal line. Before he could shoot again Everton’s Jimmy Gabriel brought him down - PENALTY. By this time the sleet from earlier on had turned to snow and it was really coming down. I could just about make out the goals at the Blackburn End. Dougie was the calmest man on the pitch as he placed the ball on the spot. He turned and walked back a few yards,turned, addressed the ball, and then sauntered up to shoot. The ball went in one bottom corner as Gordon West dived into the other corner. 3-2 to the Rovers and we’d won a classic. As things were at the time I’d turned up in a suit, collar and tie. Nobody had cagoules, anoraks or parkas then. No real outdoor gear. You turned up in your street clothes. Even as a 13 year old kid I was always dapper. In spite of this I didn’t feel the cold for a minute as jogged back to the Boulevard in the snow. Picked up the Last Sports and read it from cover to cover on the bus on the way home. Happy days indeed. Rovers team that day Else Bray, Newton Clayton, Woods, McGrath Ferguson, Lawther, Pickering, Douglas, Harrison. Everton ( from memory ). West Parker, Meagan Gabriel, Labone, Harris Bingham, Stevens, Young, Vernon, Veall I’ve written this from memory but somewhere in the house I still have the after match cutting from the Last Sports. I also thought we were 2-0 down until I re-read the cutting several years ago. This was just one of several really great games I remember from the first half of the 1960’s. Rovers v Burnley 1962, Man Utd v Rovers 1962, Rovers v Arsenal ( 5-5) 1962, Rovers v West Brom ( the Douglas wonder goal ) 1963, Rovers v Spurs ( the 3-0 and the 7-2 ) both in 1963 but different seasons, Rovers v Arsenal 1963. That’s just a few but by then I’d started playing youth football myself and I couldn’t attend games as often as I would have like to. I loved watching but it’s not nearly as good as playing yourself. I could write a bit about all of those games if anyone is interested ?

I’ll carry this topic on in the nostalgia thread if it’s ok with you ?

So we get “ more value “ into players and then they leave for nothing or get sold for a fee that rarely gets invested in the playing staff. Around and around we go like a dog chasing it’s tail. Never really moving forward. That’s until the bad season comes along and down we go.

He’s a similar player in as far as running with the ball is concerned but as you say - he doesn’t get as many goals as BBD.

Me too.

This, and the Rugby League forums, are the only social media I use plus an engineering site for business.

You mean a right wanker ?