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Correct. However if they'd have started with the 11 that finished the game they might have won that game. The " Big Man " was a 40 years old journeyman but Newcastle couldn't deal with him. Going 4-4-2 enabled them to play a more direct game than the 3-5-1-1 they started out with.

Leutwiler actually palmed that " shot " into the goal and not away from it. As someone else said he should have thrown his cap on it.

I heard his comments regarding Gallagher. I thought they were pretty damning regarding what passes for coaching these days. How old is he ? He's probably been at a pro club from before he was 10 and he needs to be told to make his runs into the box and not out of it. I knew where, when and how to make runs into the danger areas when I was at school. That came from watching what the top players did, not somebody telling me. Dack knows how to attack the spaces, why doesn't Gallagher learn from what Dack does in the box.

Yeah, we could have paid £40 million for Joelinton like Newcastle did. I'd rather have Gallagher ! I believe some Geordie fans were giving him some grief has he made his way to the team coach after the game.

The problem is if you were a prospective manager looking to loan him and you were at today's game would you take a chance ?

I try and be objective. I lost my blue and white glasses years ago. I'd have been spewing if that had have been a Rovers player.

You see them given like that all the time. Home teams get them.

Anybody else think our pen was harsh ? I've only seen it on TV but it just looks like a " coming together " to me. A pen and a red card for that ?

He was playing on the right hand side of a back three with a wing back outside him. Between the two of them they got a real roasting off the Newcastle left side players. It was brutal, they were chasing shadows. After 30 mins the manager subbed Magloire and brought on a right back so they could go with a back 4. Totally changed the game. Magloire looked like he'd no idea who he should be playing against or how much he should be helping out the wing back.

Rochdale were playing with Magloire on the right of a back three. Between him and the right wing back the Newcastle left winger ( Yedlin ? ) was having a field day. He made the wing back look like he was running in treacle. He got in up the bye line about 6 times in the first thirty minutes. only luck and good defending kept it to 0-0 until on the sixth time he put a cross in Newcastle scored from it. Magloire didn't seem to know where to play. He was hanging back and letting the wing back get hung out to dry. After the goal Magloire got subbed and they went to a back four. Completely changed the game. Rochdale had been chasing shadows until then. 2nd half they ran Newcastle ragged and should have won about 3-1.

Yeah well he really cocked up there but at least he realised it before too much damage was done.. Magloire got the shepherds crook after 30 minutes. The young right back is on his way to United if my sources are correct. He makes Premier League players look slow. Watch MOTD tonight. They were getting run silly down their right hand side before the change, after that Matheson kept a very tricky winger quiet and made some great runs down the right hand flank. He is both quick over 5-10 yards and fast over 40-50 yards.

I believe that ruthless people win in sport. You need to be ruthless, sentiment gets you nowhere. Honestly I would have fired him after the promotion season. I'd seen enough that season to see that Mowbray couldn't get a team playing well for more than 40 minutes at the most in spite of all the advantages we had over our opponents. We needed a manager capable of taking us to the next level, Mowbray isn't that Manager. I went to Rochdale V Newcastle today. Brighton loaned another goalkeeper to Rochdale, Sanchez, he was outstanding today, MOM. We definitely got second best with Walton.That young right back that came on for Magloire is a class act, he's got pace to burn and he knows how to go forward as well as defend. One for the future. I'd swap him for Magloire tomorrow given half a chance.

If we have any hope of progressing as a team we need to replace our good players with better players, not the other way around. Replace Dack with Judge ? Are they joking ? I'm off to Rochdale V Newcastle now. I'll see if there are any promising players on show.

I can think of two at least.

I was thinking that, He's not good enough with the ball at his feet.

I agree regarding the short bowling. We do it too much for no obvious benefit. " If they miss, I hit " should be a fast bowlers motto. Bowling the middle out of the wicket is pointless, especially in the UK.

Mowbray's cunning plan ?

Nobody can lose you a game quicker than your goalkeeper. That's why you need the best one you can afford. When you have a Brad Freidel in goal it's worth a goal start.

Yes he did, you couldn't say he was an elegant mover but he could get the ball in alright. He knew you don't have to beat your opponent to cross the ball.

There used to be a winger that played for Oldham and City I think, Ricky Holden. He wasn't anything like quick but he could send over 8-10 crosses a game that had " goal " written all over them. He just made enough room to get the ball in, he never actually went past people, he just did enough to make that 1/2 a yard to get his nose in front.

I agree on that point. Clever wingers can get that half a stride in front which is all you need to cross the ball. Not many clever wingers about these days though. When I started watching every team had a least one.

I can still cross a ball. Either foot, either wing. Unfortunately I can no longer run very far.

Next to ability confidence is the most important ingredient in a player. When your confidence is low any player will struggle. I remember Ian Rush playing for Liverpool before he went to Italy. A long cross came over from the right wing, he was standing just outside the far corner of the penalty box. As the ball came to him he just instantly volleyed the ball straight back left footed over the goalkeeper and into the far corner of the net. A tremendous shot that only a player with sky high confidence would even attempt. . I'd have brought the ball down and looked for somebody to pass to. Not long after that he went to Italy for his ill advised move there. Shortly after he came back and resigned for Liverpool I saw him get a similar ball to the one I mentioned earlier. He brought the ball down and looked for support. That supreme confidence had temporarily deserted him. Having said that ability comes first and from what I've seen of Big Ben I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe we've signed a winner. As for £45 million ? Rathbone needs to go to Specsavers.

We were " bidding for his signature " at the time he signed for Sheff U. We were also in for McGinn who went to Villa and that McGeoch who signed for Sunderland at that time.

Mike Harrison could cross a good ball. It came across like a bullet though, slightest touch and it would fly towards goal. You had to be pretty brave to get your head on one. Fred Pickering put plenty away.