bluebruce

My guess would be he was fed up of not playing enough and was bringing the mood down. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Not just an isolated result, but a drab 1 nil against the worst team in the league, possibly in the history of the Championship.

And the facts are he is finished and shouldn't even be brought up. No way on earth he keeps us up, he couldn't do that when he was younger and better.

First para bang on. Suggesting Mowbray in any capacity though is falling right into that same misty eyed nostalgia. He is finished.

Certainly. But he isn't registered due to his injury, so what do we do when he is fit? It's a tricky one but the highest level he can go to is National League and that's probably better for him at this point than more u21 football. Only non-league clubs can take loans now our window is closed. A game he should never have been playing (as I know you know).

It wasn't even a similar fee, we took a fair loss. There were rumours Souey benefited from both deals financially too.

🤣 seems a bit inane to double barrel using the exact same name! Does sound amusingly like somebody reporting a 14 goal thriller though.

'To a Premier League club' Fucking hell, not only are the transfer fees all undisclosed these days, we're not even disclosing what club they've moved to! 🤣

That's a surprise...I thought he was fairly highly rated by some on here, though not so much I was anticipating Prem clubs stealing him. I assume we must have received a fee for that.

I think you are also allowed to play a couple of under 21 players or something like that aren't you? Unless they changed that.

Well we made hard fucking work of that tonight, especially considering we were 1 nil up after 12 minutes against the worst side in the league, who have minus 7 points and 1 win all season. In fairness I do think Wednesday put a shift in. They battled like they were fighting for their lives, even though they're long dead. I guess they're playing without pressure though, and for pride. I was surprised they never let their heads drop though, respect. They've been losing regularly but not often by large margins. The lack of enthusiasm from fans and players at the final whistle told a story. We hobbled home against a poor side, when we were hoping for a resounding win to boost our morale in time for a crucial game against Norwich. I'm not convinced this is going to be enough to change our momentum. But anything short of a win would have been a death sentence.

He did look very clumsy when he came on tonight. Don't think he's ready to start again yet.

Johnson showing he isn't up to taking the reins by starting De Neve, and arguably by not starting Gudjohnsen (unless he isn't fully fit yet and will get a long cameo

Agree. He isn't a wing back, he doesn't have the ability in the final third. But he's a good strong defender with an incredible engine, who can carry the ball way up the pitch to hand off to more technical players, and can get back into position like nobody's business. He is a good full back, but anybody who plays him as a wing back is wasting him.

Absolutely we were half arsed in our attempts to keep them. But it wasn't because we don't view them as Championship standard, it's because we are cheap. I rated Nyambe too.

The only one of those you could argue wasn't considered good enough for Championship football is Nyambe. Actually now I think on it, we tried to keep him too. Maybe not very hard but still. And Brereton we literally turned down millions for. Szmodics we sold to a Premiership club.

I'm not sure I care right now who we get. They'll be shit, and if they're not, they'll ditch us when the club fails them, leaving us back at square one. Sick of this fucking purgatory.

On top of which, he is demonstrably clueless, as well as being arrogant and allegedly bullying some key players and personnel out of the club. I think most of us could do a better job.

Are you sure? We have definitely talked about deal sheets in these threads before, and definitely talked about submitting initial paperwork and then ironing out the fine details later. With respect, I think what you and Jackson are saying is incorrect.

From the LT: A reminder that the deadline shuts at 7pm tonight but clubs can now submit dealsheets for the first time. That allows a further two hours to complete the necessary paperwork. Something Rovers could've certainly done with in the last few years... Erm hasn't this already been the case for at least last season and I think the season before?

'Best I can do is we tried but difficult market, clubs being unrealistic with their valuations and wouldn't accept our 5 mars bars bids'

I see. Well I'd never heard of Ryan Taylor and there was no link to the article so had no idea he was a real journalist. Who does he write for?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I really have no idea either way (you have had some scoops lately though). But I think this tweet, by saying 'as reported by', is just quoting you, rather than saying they have also heard this information.

I don't really want any ex player until they've cut their teeth at a level where I'd be happy to take them on even if they weren't an ex player. The sentiment is virtually meaningless to me, I want results.

He surged us to a lower position than where he found us. The statement was technically correct as we ended the season in very good form the last 5 games or whatever, but he'd already bombed us down to midtable after taking over whilst we were in the playoffs. So whilst technically correct it gives a veneer of achievement to Ismael that he didn't warrant. But absolutely Venkys out. In fact it's another reason to think so, they alienated our capable manager and replaced him with a dimwit during a promotion challenge. Now he is about to relegate us.