bluebruce

Fair point but apart from Wharton those have yet to make it as professional senior footballers. I think Tyrone was more referring to ones we produce that reach that point, and at roughly our level. Since Hanley and Jones, that has been our speciality really. We have had a slight sideline in CMs. But Travis was brought in at 17 from Liverpool if I remember rightly. Buckley didn't consistently make it at our level but has undeniably become a senior pro footballer, still has time, netted a decent fee and isn't far off our level. You could sort of count JRC too, but we got him a little later as well after Manure had mostly developed him. And we did make Finneran, but he hasn't made it yet and of course got snapped up quickly too, like Tyrone suggests. It would be nice if some of the names you mention do come good though, and we can branch out into CMs and not just CBs.

Why don't you wait and see what happens before you announce he will be backed? The evidence of history leans heavily in favour of RF99 being right. So if you're fine to say he will be backed, RF is certainly allowed to say he won't be.

Nearly 3 goals conceded a game, over 3 seasons, and with more than 3 goals a game conceded last season, is shocking. Pakistan must be terrible to cap him. The only reason I can think for why we have kept him on (aside from our absolute love of hoarding youth keepers) is that if he did come good, it could help tap into more locals for our fanbase. But he quite clearly isn't going to come good.

You were right.

It's a good market tbf. Problem is our ability to actually sign them with the new rules. Really a shame about Whitehall. He seemed like a very promising prospect at one time, always getting rave reviews, but suffered from almost perpetual injuries.

That means pissing around here for another year and a half though. A low ball clause would probably get him out earlier.

Which highlights show it? It wasn't on the usual YouTube ones.

Think he'd be happy to sign a new contract on the same pay with a release clause... Would work for the club. 'See, we can sign senior players to extensions...oh dear he's gone to Boro for 3 million 2 weeks later, well there was nothing we could do, he insisted on a clause'

The most baffling thing about De Neve's continued selections with all these mistakes is we absolutely have other options. Options that did well enough for us last season.

You know what...I think I've had enough of this shit.

If Ismael thinks Tavares is disciplined in any sense of the word, he should look for a different career.

Then TGH should. If neither is fit enough for a full 90 surely they should play a half each. We are going to be wide open in the middle.

What in the fuckity fuck is going on with that midfield pairing? How are Tronstad and TGH on the bench but we have decided the team doesn't need a spine today?

I think we are all in the same boat then.

What do you see him as?

Yeh absolutely not ruling him out. But needs to keep developing for now.

It does sound like his form has petered out. We should keep him out on loan and buy a proper seasoned CB or two.

'If a multi-million bid comes in' has to be some of the stupidest phrasing I've seen in an article. Nearly every team in the Championship would pay 'multi millions' for him. Practically every move in the Prem is multi millions.

They haven't, for all the reasons I outlined.

We've already punished ourselves by losing possibly up to 5 points, getting injuries unnecessarily, bookings to count towards suspensions unnecessarily, national embarassment and having to play 2 more league games this season than nearly everyone (except Ipswich and Sheff W, for who it's only one more). Talk of any further punishment is daft.

If he carries this game on later, he really hasn't helped matters with this fannying around.

When you posted that, they hadn't had a shot on target, so I should hope so!

Sounds like that's our biggest problem area, a recurring issue. Perhaps because it gets the most footfall.

Is that the same area the ref dropped the ball when he called off Ipswich?

Can see a repeat of Ipswich coming.