The most pathetic display I’ve seen in years. Truly awful. Against the weakest side in the division who did nothing all game. Furious. Bad team selection to start with but yet again, it’s the defence that falls apart. Mulgrew is nowhere, Bennett a liability and Bell half asleep. Walton looks less reliable than Raya which is an achievement. His days are numbered if this carries on.

Disagree. It’s been underwhelming but we’re marginally stronger than last year. Reed is the only miss and I’d suggest that Johnson is a decent replacement along with Travis stepping up. Gallagher and Downing give us much better depth. Walton for Raya is marginal.

Brereton has more potential imo and even then he’s hardly first choice. Nuttall’s game looks far more limited. He could tear up L1 but I’d be surprised. Of all the business we’ve done this summer, this is one piece that I don’t think we’ll regret.

Surprised by some of the reaction to the Nuttall sale. He never looked remotely up to Championship standards. Selling Raya without an adequate replacement lined up is certainly worthy of criticism. Getting shot of our 5th choice striker for around 750k is not. The fact that Samuel is still here is surely due to a lack of buyers rather than being ahead of anyone in the pecking order.

Mowbray has also made about 10 substitutions. Does he know that he can only make 3 in a league game? He either doesn’t get the rules or doesn’t want it. Or maybe it’s just a pre-season game. Let’s at least wait until Charlton before losing our collective s***.

If the replacement is miles better, yes. i get the point you’re trying to make but Raya wasn’t one of our best players last season and certainly isn’t irreplaceable. Dack is slightly different. Im underwhelmed but prepared to give him a chance.

If we had signed Adam there would be outcry. ANOTHER midfielder. ANOTHER has-been 30-something. MORE cash spent that should be going towards a defender or GK. We don’t need another midfielder. If our season falls apart over Charlie Adam signing for Reading, I’d be surprised. If ever this forum needed some actual football games to talk about..

And Reed wasn’t our player.

It hasnt been awful. Conway and Rodwell won’t be missed. I’d argue that Downing and Johnson are more useful players to have. Raya will depend on the replacement(s). The window hasn’t been great by any stretch. I’m a bit disappointed given some of the talk in May, however the squad is marginally stronger and there are still signings to come. We’ve kept our best players and we’re gradually strengthening. Not awful in my book.

So we will either win, lose or draw. You’ve stuck your neck out with that one.

I understood that Holtby had already agreed to go to Galatasary before he trained with us. Our priority isn’t central midfield. I’m very pleased with the Johnson signing and with Travis/Buckley coming through, it’s hard to justify bringing Adam in. Don’t think we’ll regret that one if it falls through.

Raya is the only first team player we have lost and we’re yet to see his replacement. I agree that if we don’t get a decent keeper through the door then we’re struggling but otherwise, the squad is stronger than last season at this stage. Bradley Johnson certainly improves us. Are we ready for a promotion push, probably not but I don’t think we should write off next season just yet.

Happy enough with Gallagher. Not the most exciting but doubt we could attract much better. Also not comfortable with blowing the bank on a marquee name given FFP etc. Johnson, Downing and Gallagher represent decent enough business and improve the squad. A keeper and CB need to be the priority from now on.

All depends who we replace him with. Cant label it an error until we see how Raya develops over time. Im on the fence. Seems an odd one considering how relatively small the fee appears to be. Don’t think many of us were complaining when he got dropped at the end of the season so if we can get a decent replacement in, I’ll be alright with it. Happy with Johnson. Established championship player and certainly an improvement on what we have.

It says on the website that it’s in the club shop from tomorrow to be fair..

I’ll judge him by his actions. If he said all the right things at this moment in time but failed to improve the squad before August, I’d feel the same way. Positive intentions mean nothing if he can’t deliver. I’m not getting carried away with his recent comments in the same way that I didn’t get carried away with his previous ones.

Why don’t we wait until the transfer window shuts to determine whether it’s been a success or not..

Undecided but can see the logic. Happy to give him a chance. Hope it’s the first of many.

I assume this has more to do with Umbro’s schedules than Rovers..? Presumably we have no say in when the kits get released.

And Brad Lyons...?

You said that Jansen was a player who took his ‘foot off the pedal’. Some might say that after nearly being killed in a motorbike accident, Jansen did well just to walk on to a pitch again. Its not quite the same scenario as Sturridge..

Surely we want to be attracting the fans who haven’t been since Oxford?

You think it has no influence at all? Well let’s just flog them for nothing then.

We are also a business. I imagine you’ll be one of many expecting us to spend big money in the summer. It has to be generated from somewhere. It doesn’t necessarily justify expensive tickets but a balance has to be found. I haven’t done any research but I imagine that our tickets are still cheaper than most. Also, your first post on this thread criticised the club for dropping prices for the Swansea game. That is exactly how to get more fans through the door - an issue you then criticise Waggott for in your post above. The club seems to be damned either way.

Keep it fair. He’s played Rothwell and Dack in the last few games so clearly Mowbray accepts that two playmakers can be on the pitch. Dack was awful today. Mowbray would have been criticised for keeping him on if he hadn’t been replaced. Also Williams was arguably our best player tonight. Im not going to lose the plot over tonight. We showed that we’re not at Norwich’s level at the moment but they’re top of the league for a reason. We need to build on what we have. Should be an interesting summer.