Pears, get your coat son and Arbito says don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out...

I feel like he owes us and should sign a new contract given he's been a real slow burner so far. Having said that I've seen some encouraging signs with him last season and feel that next season could potentially be a big one for him.

Bit of a churlish response that. I'm made up for the lad, a proper Roy of the Rovers story-line. This whole experience could be the making of him and, if it is, we might be beneficiaries too.. As long as he doesn't speak Spanish like Mclaren spoke 'Dutch' mind you.

I'm happy to discuss the merits of Buckley but I can't accept that Jason Lowe is being held up as something which proves how bad Buckley is. Lowe is/was an anti-footballer who could suck the life out of a game just by being involved.

We get you and Sparks aren't data fans but it really is getting boring now..

Blimey Sparks - talk about a dog with a bone when you were the one who made a clearly bogus comment initially about us losing when Buckley starts Your last post then basically just reaffirms Joe's post was correct other than him not starting against QPR although I'd suggest the fact he came on after 5 minutes is almost as good as starting? Time to move on maybe before you dig the hole any deeper...

I tend to agree although I have quite liked the fact we've dished out a few hammerings this season which is quite unusual for us. Scoring ,more goals is nice too but is offset , as many have said, by the fact we had no Plan B once teams sussed us out... flat-track bullies sums us up quite well this season.

Too true. I played with a lad on the Uni team many years ago, quick as a whippet but never looked up and had often run on to the adjacent Rugby field before he realised and belatedly put the brakes on... If he had a football 'brain' it was hidden somewhere deep and very rarely came out to play.

Albert Einstein apparently once said; “Not everything that can be counted counts and not everything that counts can be counted.” That pretty much sums up my feelings on data in football - it has a part to play but so do lots of other things...

Chaddy, we would never have got near the top 6 if Lambert had stayed. He talked the talk but was ultimately disappointing.

Johnson had a good month early in the season and then became increasingly irrelevant as the season wore on. Claiming he was one of the best this season is patently rubbish imo.

Like many on here I want Mowbray gone but looking at the people released in isolation I have to say I'm not sad any of them are going. I'd like to think we can do better at a fraction of the wages which were being wasted on players contributing very little - however, that requires a proactive and organised recruiting team and unfortunately we seem to be lacking in that area...

The problem with keeping Bennett is that although he's versatile he's just not very good at all the things he's versatile at. Get rid.

You have a very valid point. I'd like to think there is better out there but whether or not there's any real chance of us getting them is the million dollar question..

Just to be clear that's the last thing I want. The current clear out really should include both Bennett and Johnson if we are going to have an authentic fresh start especially as neither will bring anything to the party next year.

I'd say all the very best full-backs these days have elements of the wing back about them, Alexander-Arnold and Robertson being perfect examples. Attacking ability being just as important as their defensive skills. Full back feels like a very different proposition these days and whilst Nyambe is okay I don't ever see him being top drawer. Should we keep him? Am I bovvered? Not sure I am truth be told.

I get what you're saying and to a large extent I agree. Winning is a good habit to develop and something we should always aspire to. Mowbray saying what he did is just wrong but that's also why I don't like it when people on here say I hope we lose. It just sticks in my craw. By the way, that doesn't mean I want to keep Mowbray - he needs potting. Dreadfully disappointing season after some early promising signs. The time is right for a younger, more dynamic and motivational manager who can hopefully take us to the next level.

Pretty reasonable ratings although I wouldn't have given Elliott a 9. More like a 7.5/8 for me. Pears is shocking. We really need Kaminski not to get injured. Harwood-Bellis would take again but I fear that horse has bolted and someone better than us will snaffle him up for next season. Trybull - if we get rid of Johnson and Evans (fingers crossed), I'd try for him and then add another decent centre mid to the squad too. I know he's a bit marmite but I don't mind him personally.

Brereton's still young so I'm prepared to persevere with him. I want to see what tune a new manager can get out of him as I believe he does have a lot of attributes just - needs to learn how to use them consistently and effectively.

Some churlish comments on here. Yeah we're all fed up and want the manager gone but there are some decent goals in that selection. When you look at them though it helps confirm how much we imploded this season after a fine early start - none of the goals seem to be after January 2021 with most of them from very early in the season!

Good spot but begs the response that there's been a hell of a lot of games since then. I have to say that for all the times our central defenders trot up for corners I never have any real expectation that they'll score..

I don't think any have scored...Douglas has come mighty close though.

Indeed it is - we need a new manager for lots of reasons, just one of them being I'm far from convinced he'll even get rid of all the deadwood we've had for far too long.

I know, they were aspirational 'get rids' given that one is rubbish and one's a croc...

For me it's clean sweep time. Kaminski - keep Pears - get rid, not even good enough to be a no 2 keeper, get a decent one in Bell - get rid Nyambe/JRC - keep one of 'em, I'd edge towards JRC and bring in a proper RB to compete Evans - get rid Douglas - been a massive disappointment but might be worth a punt if (big if) he can stay fit to compete with Pickering for LB Wharton - keep but it's going to be a long road back. Benno - get rid Holtby - let him go (he wants to be in Germany with his missus and has tailed off badly in addition to not getting any younger) Trybull - this one is tin hat time but I'd try and get him if Holtby and Evans are off. Obviously at least one other CM would also be needed though Davenport - seems a bit lightweight - keep as a squad player? Buckley - see above.. Johnson - get rid Downing - get rid Ayala - would love to get rid but I'm afraid he's the new Grella Lenihan - if he wasn't the best of a bad bunch I'd say bye to him too - keep with gritted teeth Travis - keep but badly needs a full pre-season Rothwell - toss a coin, can tantalise and infuriate several times in the same game.. Dolan - keep, shown some promise Dack - long road back for him too. Really feel for him, hope he can relaunch his career. Brereton - tin hat again , still believe he has something, early this season was borderline unplayable at times. Can a new manager do something with him? I'd like to see. Gallagher - can't get past the feeling he's going backwards. Might the new manager bounce help or do we cut our losses and sell him.. Armstrong - can't see him staying. Sell him for good money and hopefully reinvest the lot. Rest of the loanees - Elliott, thanks, you're going to have a career.. Harwood Bellis - ditto, Branthwaite - premiership quality?, need convincing. As I said in an earlier post, it feels like there's an awful lot of work to do.