This referee has given us nothing and Hull everything. Where do we get them from?

Why asks Mowbray?

No but maybe Waggott should.

Well I ofent!

I'd go with that but it's not defensive enough for our defensive minded manager.

I'll have a pint of what you've had but please, please don't use "of" when it should be "have". I know it's a common error but it really irritates me.

Sorry guys I appear to have steered this feature off track. Please feel free to transfer it elsewhere,

I think the biggest change was that in the 50's there was only one centre half but that was to some degree offset by the fact that one of the wing halves (midfielders) was mainly defensive and tended to support the centre half. Also the full backs were purely defenders and rarely sallied forth up the wing, so without formally setting up as such, there was, to a large degree, a four man defence. The main difference was that the wingers were not expected to defend and whilst the attacking wing half and the number 10 did a bit of defensive work in midfield, they mainly attacked and the number 8 was basically a second centre forward so yes there was probably more accent on attack than defence and from a spectator's point of view it was much more exciting to watch. Although I didn't get there this week, probably much like Carlisle v Rovers.

Yep you are right. I missed that but Tommy was still well worth remembering.

Tommy Briggs - 7 in a match v Bristol Rovers in 1955. I was there at Ewood that day.

Words, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. With apologies to the Bard.

Typical manager speak for "Up your offer".

Yes because he is effectively our player. I give up now.

I don't think you understood my point. It's like a purchase but you do not pay until January.

That's about right. The biggest fee was Dack at £750grand.

I may be missing something but I don't see the difference between paying £6mil for a player now or loaning him with a contract to pay £6mil in the next window. In the end he has still cost the same and he is still your player whether he is a success or not. It makes no difference.

It wouldn't do for us all to have the same opinion. Personally I feel that Palmer has a greater range of skills and it's up to the manager to harness those skills, however over the course of a match there is room for both. Rothwell had an excellent ten minutes and then disappeared. They both need managing.

Palmer starts for me. Too many on here are averse to flair players. I love them.

I use skygo on my laptop a lot. It works fine at home on my normal sky broadband and at the hospital on their free wifi when I'm on dialysis at Accrington Victoria hospital. It must be a problem with your broadband. It works perfectly well for me.

I trust that nobody bought season tickets on the back of Mowbray's promises.

He's an unknown quantity and therefore tends to be ignored until he proves himself.

It will only become a "decent" if we get another centre forward to share the position with Danny Graham. We can't go on with Nuttall or Samuel up front for the last half hour of every match or when Graham is not available. Ideally we could do with at least one proper winger too instead of the "make do and mend" wide forwards that we are employing at the moment and the "way past his sell by date" Conway. Right back is also a problem with "pub team player" Caddis the only fall back if anything happens to Nyambe, who also needs to continue to improve. These weaknesses are obvious to me and probably to everybody who watched the team last season and urgently need to be addressed.

We really need a centre forward. We can't afford to spend the last half hour of every match without a target man for an outlet and what if Graham is injured or suspended.

It could be because we have too many players who can't last 90minutes. The team that finished yesterday were not a patch on the starting eleven.

You don't witness anything if you don't see it and therefore lose the right to a believable opinion.