I suspect what’s happened here is as follows... Brereton has performed poorly, again, and been subbed off. A few people have made ironic cheers, maybe the odd couple have booed, and a few people probably shouted something along the lines of “get off, you are shit”. The majority of the supporters there will have stood up and applauded him with varying degrees of enthusiasm. He probably looked a bit disappointed in his performance. Which he should have been. This whole scenario has since been reimagined with our fans as a baying mob hurling disgusting abuse at an apparently crushed and inconsolably sobbing Brereton as he trudged off the field. Criticism and abuse are not one and the same. Referees are human, all of them undoubtably try their best, yet they are barracked from all corners in every single match, and their performances scrutinised and criticised whatever they do. Why doesn’t the virtue signalling extend to them? Branding any criticism of a footballer as abuse is really problematic. I’ve seen fans vilified and bullied disgracefully via social media for simply voicing an opinion (the situation with Bennett on twitter earlier this season being a prime example). There is also a risk of it threatening to trivialise real issues like racism. Also, please let’s not try diagnosing Brereton’s mental health. I expect the support network He has around the club will do that far more effectively than any of us are capable of. Obviously I hope he is ok, and wouldn’t wish any abuse or mental health illness upon him. I do however think he has been an abysmal signing, and one which is more than a little fishy.

I expect the claim that they ever have done is absolute fantasy

Anybody heard anything about the date for this yet? They are already very late with this.

Pretty happy with that line up considering the injuries we have. I’m a big proponent of 4-4-2 but I think with our two most natural wingers having to fill in at full back we are better off going 4-2-3-1. I’d really like to see Buckley get a run of games in the ‘Dack role’.

More annoyed today than I was on Monday. Went with a 4-4-2, yet STILL the only players offering us any width are our full backs. The Peter Jackson hospitality must be on the generous side, cos whoever decided Lenihan was MOTM must have been steaming. He was crap again, and our back four looks shaky and disorganised without Adarabioyo there. I thought Bell did ok until he decided to boot their player. Anyone complaining about that penalty decision is either blind or bonkers. Buckley clearly has plenty of ability and a very good brain - if he had the physique of Brereton, he could go right to the very top. He needs serious game time and a lot of gym work as soon as possible. Walton looking good again, though I’d like to see less pass backs to him. Armstrong does sod all except score a penalty and thinks he’s Shearer reincarnated. Sick of him. Gallagher grafted but won’t get double figures in a season as long as he’s got a hole in his arse.

Nail on head.

Disappointing night, but let’s not blow it out of proportion. They came and did a job. That Morsy is an horrible bastard, but they battled hard. We need a bit more of that sometimes. Both our centre backs and both our wingers were particularly bad tonight. No surprise that Adarabioyo was a massive miss. If there’s any money available get it spent on a centre half for goodness sake. The uncontested drop ball rule is rubbish, and that incident highlighted just how poor a grip the ref had on the game throughout. Not strong enough. Walton’s best performance for us was nice to see. Get well soon Dack.

My god that latest episode of Dynamite was horrendous. The bad far outweighed the good, and that ending was atrocious. Dark Order make Aces and Eights look like the Four Horsemen. They need a rethink really quickly, because this sort of rubbish will turn people off in droves. To be honest I will only be tuning in to the next episode out of morbid curiosity rather than any expectation of being entertained. Cornette reviewed the show on this weeks Experience... and he shows just how they are missing someone with his know how behind the scenes. It’s not just a scathing attack, well, not all of it, but some genuine constructive criticisms that I really hope somebody listens to.

https://twitter.com/btsportwwe/status/1205171944250843138 another Rovers/Wrestling crossover tweet

Credit to Mowbray today. We were more than good value for the three points, though we should probably have been out of sight at half time. I thought every player did well, and the last 4 games have meant those 11 shirts are theirs to lose. Few specials mentions... It shouldn’t be underestimated how good a signing Downing has proven to be. Probably our most consistent performer of the season and possesses genuine quality. Nyambe is getting better and better. His confidence is clearly growing by the game. I’ve been critical of Lenihan in the past, but he looks a different beast with Adarabioyo beside him. Seeing him plough through a pile of bodies to smash a header was brilliant. As for Adarabioyo, he’s going to have some career! Evans is in the form of his life. Absolutely fantastic today. He was everywhere. Armstrong still frustrates, but what a strike. Should’ve had another one at least. But if he keeps up that level of performance I’ll gladly eat my words. If he improves the consistency of his final product we’ve got a player on our hands. Looks as though I’m the only one, but I thought Mowbray got his subs spot on, although I didn’t at the time... I rolled my eyes when I saw Gallagher trotting over time the wing, but he put a real shift in and Armstrong for those few minutes dragged their defenders all over the place. Yes, we lost a focal point in Graham, but I think it worked considering we were inevitably going to be under the cosh with them desperately chasing it at the end. Bennett sured things up, basically becoming an additional defender. Buckley was just a time killer and fresh legs, he needs to hit the gym hard though.

The last two episodes of Dynamite have been, on the whole, awful. Some very good bits interspersed in garbage. I think DE absolutely nailed it saying it had an indie show feel. I absolutely guarantee that at least 50% of the AEW roster would not be allowed on WWE programming, they would be sent to developmental (not NXT shows, the performance centre) for at least a year because they are so lacking in the basics. Some of those are people AEW seems to be pushing. Some common threads in almost every match they air are that they are over choreographed, incoherently moving from spot to spot, loads of false finishes, decent looking punches are never thrown, loads of super kicks, stomps and dives, a general lack of logic and an unawareness of where the cameras are. I like the idea of quarterly PPV events, but the pacing of the build is all wrong. It also seems as though there is only a very small handful of performers they feel are capable of building feuds and storylines around. Plenty of potential, but it’s all a big mess at the moment in my opinion. They have a rabidly loyal core fanbase, many of which will gladly delude themselves as they have their colours nailed firmly to the AEW mast. I don’t know how long this will last, and I can’t see them growing their viewership any time soon.

It was very strange. All this and then they do a thank you piece to camera for him.

It would be amazing to see him in AEW just to see twitter explode! He has stated numerous times he has no desire to work anything like a full time schedule, just one of many reasons NWA was a good fit for him. He might go back when the furore dies down, but I think he will be happy enough doing his podcasts and what not for the foreseeable.

You can’t take the blanket statement that Cornette hates comedy as gospel. He has performed, booked and praised comedic elements frequently. He dislikes Omega for his match against a blow up doll. He dislikes Janela for having matches against the invisible man. He dislikes Joey Ryan for the dick flip. He dislikes Orange Cassidy for his entire routine. Dislike is not a strong enough word actually. He is furious about such things and holds a long lasting grudge. His explanation is that such things make a mockery of the wrestling business. I find all the above stupid and completely unentertaining, it doesn’t boil my piss like it does Cornettes, but then I haven’t worked 50 years in the business. There’s a world of difference between these sort of spots and the comedy aspects of the eras of the past though. He was asked specifically about some more comical aspects of the WWE when he was there (exactly what escapes me) and says he wasn’t crazy about them either. On the death match stuff, he has never liked hardcore wrestling, he calls people idiots who jump through light tubes or who injure themselves leaping off basket ball hoops (Marko Stunt), or use staple guns (Jimmy Havoc). It’s quite ironic that he brought New Jack to prominence in Smoky Mountain by telling him to “go out there and piss off white people” before he went to ECW. The Gangsters stuff was edgy as hell. His opinions on modern matches are much less vitriolic. His criticism is more constructive. People pick up on sound bites but he’s raved about PAC, Jericho, Cody, Hangman Page, Britt Baker, Nayla Rose, Awesome Kong, Dustin... he’s always been a fan of SCU, but hasn’t always thought their AEW matches were great. Sammy Guevara has clearly grown on him over the weeks. He describes Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus as stars, and says he’d love to work with Marq Quen and he would get him over as his champion. He said MJF was a better heel than even him, and there is something there with Darby Allen. There’s plenty of good stuff he says about all the above, but when he sees competitive matches between Mismatched opponents, matches going too long, people kicking out of ridiculously good moves only to be pinned by a lesser move later, rules and logic being defied, he calls it out because it’s not to his taste. The claims that he blindly hates are lazy.

I’m a big Cornette fan. I absolutely believe his joke was just outdated rather than with any racist intent. He is very scathing of those who he feels make a mockery of wrestling. Anyone who indulges in invisible hand grenades, dickflips and death matches has felt the sharp end of his tongue. He is critical of what he calls “cosplay video game wrestlers”, including, but not limited to The Young Bucks and Kenny Omega - he dislikes overly choreographed bouts with too much visible cooperation, too many false finishes and a lack of logic. He critiques these matches sometimes harshly, but consistently and thoughtfully. This has put him on a collision course with the very vocal (or at least twitter active) fans of these styles. He is of course massively outspoken and won’t back down from an argument. The narrative they like to peddle is that he is “toxic” and has no place in wrestling. Lagana addressed a twitter outrage a couple of weeks ago when he was accused of “mocking suicide victims” when someone unearthed a quote from a while back he has uses frequently before and since, namely that someone should be “took out into the parking lot and hung”, which is obviously just hyperbole. He was annoyed at the fact Lagana took it so seriously when he felt it was just a case of bandwagon jumping by his detractors. Apparently he told Lagana during a phone call after the Power commentary incident that “it wasn’t fun any more” and he basically didn’t want the hassle. I think there was also an element of annoyance that Lagana was scapegoating him having failed to pick up on it in post production. He certainly doesn’t need the money, and has for a long time said he will only take bookings that he will enjoy doing. He consulted with Tony Khan before AEW got going and told him “I’m the only person you can trust is telling you the truth because I’m not looking for a job”. It’s a shame for the fans who enjoyed his commentary, and anyone with a wrestling show really ought to try and pick his brains. NWAs first show with him gone was horrendous. His biggest crime was not understanding that he has pissed people off so much they would obviously claim to be outraged and offended.

Really enjoyed that. Thought we were better than Brentford, who are a very good side, on the night and thoroughly deserved the win. Graham needs to play. He does what he does so well and gives the three behind him so much freedom. I’m not a huge fan of Evans, but I thought he did great tonight. Rothwell was fantastic. Really ought to have scored but aside from that a near flawless performance. Nyambe going off injures was a bit of a gut punch, hope he’s back soon because there really ought not to be any question about who is our best right back. Downing proving to be a really shrewd signing. Armstrong still frustrates the hell out of me, but on the whole tonight was one of his better days. Would prefer a proper winger out there though. We also seemed to get the rub of the green today, the ball bounced kindly a few times and their shooting wasn’t quite there, but you make your own luck and I felt the performance definitely warranted a win. Sad seeing Raya playing for another team. Was never in favour of him being sold, and tonight just reaffirmed that. When Brereton makes these cameos it’s like watching soccer aid when Les Ferdinand goes off for Paddy McGuiness. Criminally bad signing.

I was almost at the stage where I was ready for a complete break from Wrestling. AEW annoys me far too frequently and I have this awful feeling it’s going to be a great big missed opportunity. The vitriol any valid criticism is met with, as well as the likes of Meltzer and Zane showing ludicrous bias is tiresome. My favourite brand of late, NWA power, has killed itself completely, tonight’s show being absolute evidence. But Survivor series really pulled out all the stops. Genuinely exciting and progressive. I hope it’s a sign of things to come and not a short lived reaction.

. Leutweiler Nyambe Adarabioyo Lenihan Bell Rothwell Travis Holtby Downing Dack Graham Hilton, Bennett, Rankin-Costello, Johnson, Samuel, Brereton, Buckley

I’m really happy today. My scorecast came in at £150/1. I thought we would surely win at home against a massively struggling team, but was positive we’d make heavy weather of it. If We lost Dack for any length of time I think we are bang in trouble.

Nyambe being “under the weather” and “not in particularly good nick” is code for “obviously Bennett would be at right back even if we had a fully fit Cafu in his prime”

The Brentford one is worth a look.

Fucking hell, with Mowbray’s obsession with putting people where they shouldn’t go he will want the away fans in the Riverside one week, then move them to the Jack Walker for the first 20 minutes of the next game before finishing up on the Blackburn end roof.

At the last consultation meeting the issue of maintenance came up. Waggott basically said it cost too much to do it too often, and mentioned a multi year plan.

The personal abuse in some of these posts is bang out of order. Simon has come on here and put his side across - fair play to him. The attacks are unfair and don’t do the image of this forum any good, and at a point in time where there is a fair amount of criticism directed the way of it anyway. I used to enjoy Simon’s column, I accept his opinion currently differs from mine, but some of the stuff on here is too far. I really enjoy everything he writes in 4,000 holes, where by the sounds of things his hands are far less tied.

I caught the train at about 10:15 as I couldn’t be bothered waiting around for another hour. I’d had enough by then. Interesting you were bored. I have come to the conclusion that, by and large, WWE is boring, and AEW is frustrating.