Not going today after the Wigan debacle - not shelling out over £100 for tickets to watch dross. If Sharpe's predicted team is anything like right then I think it merely confirms how abysmal our recruitment has been. Doesn't seem our big summer signing, Brereton, will start today and this is now beyond a joke given recent results. I think there has to be something seriously amiss with that signing. Having said all that, I expect a response and we are playing a team lower than us in the league on our own turf and for those reasons, I've lumped on a Rovers' win at slightly better than evens. I think it will be a horrible, horrible game but we will sneak it by the odd goal in 3 and, for my 'fun' bet, have stuck a tenner on 2-1 at almost 9/1.

Not a problem for me. Even offered to buy Chaddy a pint at Wigan.

Bobby Moore was not the quickest, however, he had football intelligence. He read the game like many couldn't and had superb timing. A team gels as a unit far more quickly and far better the more they play together without constant chopping and changing of both systems and personnel. Footballers also perform far better when they are not played out of position. Football is a relatively simple game and football management should be.

Travis, Rothwell and Brereton have to start as we need some lads in there with commitment, energy and something to prove. Travis deserves a shot. Rothwell has a spark about him and we need to know just what Brereton can or can't do. Additionally, Reed must start in the centre of midfield. Mowbray must stop worrying about the opposition, keep his system / tactics simple and play lads in their feckin position - no more square pegs in round holes. The Owls are no great shakes and it's a winnable game. Lose this one and God knows where we will be heading.

Travis, Rothwell and Brereton have to start as we need some lads in there with commitment, energy and something to prove. Travis deserves a shot. Rothwell has a spark about him and we need to know just what Brereton can or can't do. Additionally, Reed must start in the centre of midfield. Mowbray must stop worrying about the opposition, keep his system / tactics simple and play lads in their feckin position - no more square pegs in round holes. The Owls are no great shakes and it's a winnable game. Lose this one and God knows where we will be heading.

I know one thing, if either Kean or Owen had been Rovers' manager last night, that performance would have resulted in MB meltdown. I think last night was as bad, if not worse, as anything I saw under Kean or Owen. Think Mowbray gets off very lightly with Rovers' fans.

I know when Rovers signed Williams, Cryer seemed to find it incredulous as he was deemed to be third choice for his beloved Bristol City. How he once won our player of the year award......................................certainly didn't get my vote!

If you prefer 'Coyle y', I can revert back....................................

But would he want to come and sit on the bench for half season until Tony thought he was ready and understood Tony's way of playing?

As I posted earlier, we are in real danger of being not much better off than when Mowbray replaced Owen. IMV, we don't seem mentally or physically up for it, tactics are a nonsense, players are used consistently out of position, recruitment is poor and the Brereton signing is absolutely mystifying and worrying. On top of that, I think our style of football is cr@p. To me, the players' body language last night got the alarm bells ringing - I very much doubt all is well in the camp. Mowbray should be very worried and he should be on the thinnest of thin ice.

Hits a number of nails on the head. Trouble is Chaddy, you bury your head in the sand too much, hiding from stark reality just hoping it's all a bad dream.

The way Dack is presently playing his value is falling by the game. This will be one tough game. I still don't think we are anywhere near as fit as a team as we were in the Hughes era. Too many of our lads don't look like they can be at it for 90 minutes (either physically or mentally). Our third game in a week following our mauling in the first two games doesn't augur well.

Think your point about shelf life is spot on. I would not give Mowbray any more money. Think he's had more than enough (signings and improved contracts) and not used it wisely. The Brereton signing looks more absurd by the day and he should really be taken to task over this. He's either dropped a real clanger (so why trust the guy in the market anymore) or it wasn't his signing and, if that's the case, as a purported man of principle and honesty, he should walk away. We are in real danger now, especially in light of our next few games. of being exactly where we were when Mowbray walked through the door almost two years ago to replace Owen. Last night's display was as bad as anything I saw under either Kean or Owen. In a nutshell, it could therefore be said we've stagnated for the last two years. I

I have said Mowbray got us back at first time of asking, job done - on several occasions - what more do you want me to say?

Maybe Charlie is miffed that Mowbray didn't allow him to link up with Scotland in international week.

Mowbray got us up at the first time of asking. If he hadn't, it would have been a huge failure. We were the best resourced club in a p i s s poor league - a league far less competitive than the old Third Division that Gordon Lee and Howard Kendall got us out of. There were a number of matches where we 'got away with it'. That wont happen in the Championship.

Make no mistake, his value is plummeting by the match.

We got away with it last season in a p i s s poor league. This season will be entirely different. We've rode our luck in several matches already this season. If thumping and embarrassing defeats against average Championship teams like PNE and wigan don't get the alarm bells ringing..................................

Mowbray selects both the players who make the errors and the players who can't play better final balls. Mowbray is responsible for recruitment, training / coaching, motivation, tactics and selection. The buck stops firmly with him.

Think all the money has gone on the Brereton deal......................................

What looks like the £7million Brereton farce will linger for some time to come!

Tonight was a total embarrassment. The alarm bells are well and truly ringing. Take responsibility Mowbray. Two midfielders as centre halves, two sitting midfielders out of their depth, a striker out wide left, a central midfielder out wide right – square pegs in round holes and Mowbray seems oblivious. We have so many gaping gaps and Joe Averages, the £7million Brereton farce looks more absurd by the match. Windass at £2million was far too hot for Rovers to handle. We could have been 4 or even 5 down at half time. Individually and collectively our defence was shambolic. You could have been excused for thinking either Kean or Owen were still in charge. No excuses, no dressing this up as a one-off bad day at the office (there are too many of those), the buck stops with Mowbray. I think I was generous in referring to him as a steady Eddie. I think we’ve seen poor motivation, poor tactics and poor recruitment from Mowbray. An absolute stinking night.

I respect Coyle for his achievements at St Johnstone, Burnley and initially at Bolton and I said that in the post above - full stop. He has since bombed and I would not try to defend him, particularly his time at Rovers.

Look, Coyle bombed at Rovers. Full stop. I would ask no one to respect his tenure as Rovers' manager. What is wrong is for folk like Chaddy to come on here and diss Coyle as a 'fool and an embarrassment'. The inescapable fact is that Coyle did well as a manager at St Johnstone, Burnley and when he first went to Bolton. Over the years, thousands have tried the football managerial game and failed. Coyle tried the football managerial game and achieved success in the earlier parts of his managerial career - I respect that. Across all walks of life, whether you like an individual or not, any fair minded person would respect the achievements of a fellow human being.