Looked up Elche on Transfermarkt seeing as I know nothing about them and found their squad is valued at 5m less than Rovers! Only an Austrian central defender, Affengrauber, valued above 3m being at 5m. For keeper they select between a 21 year old Spaniard and a 38 year old Uruguayan.

Wonder how many loans he’ll have had by 25… modern football, ay

"Good to see him get some first team football"

He has, but the only game time he has missed since moving on is for that 6 month period prior to going to Plymouth. He may well have been in line to fill in when those got injured. But a simple yes or no, do you genuinely think he would have played more than 50 Championship games in the last 2 seasons had he stayed, with another season of regular football to come? And even if you think that which seems revisionist, can you not acknowledge that he HAS developed lots since he moved by being exposed to lots of regular Championshiop football? He wouldnt have been any better off even if he had stayed because at best he would have only been doing what he has been doing anyway and playing Championship football. He clearly wasnt signed to have an immediate impact on the pitch. They signed a young lad who hadnt really played much Championship football. We have signed loads of players (like any club) for the future. Mafoumbi, Barrett, Doherty and many others. Are they all wastes of time too? You only think players signed for the first team have any point. They signed a young lad for cheap. They will hope one day he will make the first team. If not they know they can churn out a considerable profit on him. So its an undeniably good bit of business.

If Alebiosu came here for 500k, didn't play a game, spent a year or so out on loan, and we sold him for £2m afterwards, Chaddy would be saying it's a great move for everybody concerned.

Would you mind leaving those of us that enjoy women's football to talk about it without you, then? I'm hopeful of either Kelly or Agyemang starting the final.

I'm very jealous of anyone out there. Looks a lovely few days and IraC's comments on the stadium make it sound like a proper jaunt. Enjoy yourselves.

No, no. You changed your point halfway through. You're SO determined to be right that you changed "pointless for Spurs" to "pointless on the pitch". Let's debate in good faith.

Carter has been injured alot in the last 2 years and Wharton just been out for 12 month. Again what you overlook repeatedly is that. You just ignored my point repeatedly on whether he has been success for Spurs for them? Answer he hasn't. Its been totally pointless signing for them on the pitch for them. That's was my entire point

I'll be getting one of the gold shirts in the near future, they look classy.

I haven't dispute that point but my point it isn't benefit Spurs on the pitch for them which my post was about. He hasn't been Success for them

Currently training

Nixon said it possibility not me

So no acknowledgement of the fact that hes played so many games already having gone down the route he has, or the games he will play this season? Theres literally a Stoke fan in the Championship thread saying he was their best outfield player last season and that hes developed well and will go on to bigger things. Does that sound a player who has moved and had his development stunted? Also, assuming he never breaks through at Spurs and is sold on. In your head, signing a player and then selling him at a massive profit is "pointless." He may have broken through here, although Hyam, Carter and Wharton are all still here. Big assumption to suggest that he would have instantly become first choice. But either way, even if he had, he would just match the regular game time he has already achieved, so how would he have been MORE developed had he stayed? Your alternative choice of staying would just at best give him the same exposure at the same level that he has had.

He will benefit spurs financially. That’s the point that you are clearly missing or just being too stubborn to accept that you are wrong

I didn't see either so not too sure. Pasha was there though and got a cold reception from the fans. I am five minutes from the hotel they are stopping at and I believe they are playing a round of golf today, so if I get time, I might pop up and have a look.

Was Gestede or Adam Owen there on Tuesday?

Phillips only played due to the lack of experienced cbs. At every opportunity that there was experienced available he was dropped. Wharton's long term injury gave Phillips a boost up the pecking order. JDT's first game Phillips wasnt even the first choice Academy player to come on with Barnes coming on ahead of him. Barnes' long term injury gave him another boost up the pecking order. If those two hadnt been injured Phillips COULD have been even lower down the pecking order and so his first team playing time was limited. Phil Jones one the other hand held onto his first team place when circumstances prevailed because he looked comfortable in the first team where as Phillips sometimes looked uncomfortable at times so I think Phillips wouldnt have got as much championship experience now if he had stayed at Rovers

Did he break through at Spurs? Did Spurs first team benefit from his signing? If he had stayed here over the last 2 years he would have broke through and we a first team regular now given his talent.

So his development has stalled and thus he made a terrible decision to leave here where he was behind other senior centre backs?

You said it was "a possibility" but my post was about Nixon supppsedly saying that we still want him. I think thats an out of date suggestion and you can discount it.

They played in the home kit on Tuesday, but may change on Friday as Elche play in Green and White. We will clash with either our home shirt or third kit, so it could be the Gold one, if Elche do choose their normal strip.

Never comment on Kapuadi if you look closer at my reply to Mark

You dont address peoples points, you just repeat your own. Has he developed? Yes, he has played and this season will continue to play loads of football. Will it benefit Spurs? Yes, they will make a considerable profit on him so good investment. And would he have immediately and suddenly have gone here from 5th choice to 2nd? No.

Yes it is pointless signing cos he isnt in the first team squad at Rovers. And no I haven't how old he is