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Yep, to the outsider these owners are probably the very definition of ideal - pour tons of money in, don't interfere and in it for the long haul. We're in a decreasing minority in recognising the immense long term lasting damage this is doing. Quite a few others know about it - the dozens of players and staff who have escaped it at the first opportunity - fortunately for them there's no local or emotional attachment to contend with and they can simply secure employment elsewhere

Which is why it can’t be a red. Morishita never had the ball under control, so anything could have happened, therefore it wasn’t a goal scoring opportunity.

I do know because I have been told by someone still involved. The key word is denial and I don't think anyone can say he wasn't denied an obvious goal scoring opportunity.

You are making assumptions again. No U turn here, I still think he is aloof and arrogant but on this occasion I believe he is right. Sometime being objective is the best course of action - you should try it.

The fact is no one knows. He could of taken a touch inside and cut off the defender that chance was taken away. Personally a red though on the wire

Whilst I agree, the screenshot is irrelevant. It only becomes relevant once Morishita has the ball under control.

He said he thought Davies would have got to the ball.

That's some u turn from you arbitro! What happened to "Mr Aloof" and Mr. "Arrogant"? The fact Vince Viley is such a poor manager is absolutely the point. That's why we're not winning any (or at least many) football matches. We can't defend properly, we don't create anywhere near enough chances and his substitutions frequently cost us the game. It's nothing whatsoever to do with poor officiating. Decisions go for and against you all the time. It may be we're temporarily not getting the rub of the green but that's irrelevant -you have to get on with it and do your job properly. Complete excuse culture down there. Strip the squad to the bone then complain about injuries. Find yourselves unable to win a home game or hold onto a lead, turn the blame onto the officials. It's absolutely nauseating. Wonder what the excuses for Saturday will be? Vince must be hard at work already adding them to his "list".

I think distance to goal is the main contributing factor in the refs decision

Enlighten me. Which two? Distance to goal: The distance between the foul and the goal. General direction of play: The attacker's direction and position relative to the goal. Likelihood of keeping or gaining control: Whether the attacker would have been able to control the ball. Location and number of defenders: The positions and number of defenders between the attacker and the goal.

Simply a must win. There can be no excuses for this one. I imagine it'll be the same starting XI again. Cantwell to probably get a bit more time off the bench. Rovers 2 - 1 Wednesday. I don't think it'll be comfortable.

4 pieces of criteria for it to be DOGSO & 2 of them aren't met

Not for me, just seen it back. He certainly didn't drop a shoulder and cut inside, he just passed it first time into the far corner because our left sided player (De Neve) was nowhere near him.

Another Tronstad then. 😉

Cardiff spent up to £4M on Salech, they are not exchanging him for Gueye Salech, who arrives in Wales on his 23rd birthday, has joined from Swedish side Sirius for an undisclosed fee which is believed to be between £3m and £4m. Connelly seems to do ok for 6 months, then his form and attitude drop off a cliff, I would avoid. Edit - Just checked, this season (which is in league 1) is only the second time in his career that he has scored more than 3 senior goals in one season I like Bali Mumba, think he is a decent shout, 2 years left on his contract, wont be on much, vaguely achievable as long as we are not competing with anyone else

I think we need to turn it in with the refs are corrupt, EFL hates us. Plays right into the owners/VI’s victim narrative. The ref made a howler, no doubt over the season we will get howlers go in our favour. There will be countless other teams in the end of equally bad decisions on a weekly basis, but we don’t pore over their games with a fine tooth comb like we do ours mistakes in our games feel much more pronounced. The fact remains that we made numerous errors that contributed to them equalising. From substitutions giving them momentum to Miller giving the ball away needlessly to De Neve not being where he should. Referees neither score nor concede goals. Players do

The referee gave nothing. Personally I didn't think it was a foul and it wasn't dissimilar to the Hedges challenge on Saturday.

I think Miller's an absolutely shocking player. Cant defend to save his life. One of the worst of the summer signings. Compare him with Pratt and it's like night and day. Right under our nose and wouldn't have cost a fee. Could either of our other youngsters have done a job as well?

If you think it's a deflection tactic that is your prerogative but many think he is justified in doing so. Whether or not he is 'piss poor' is irrelevant to this point.

It’s a definite goal scoring opportunity given how shit of a goalkeeper Walton is. It’s a shame we didn’t capitalise on the couple of idiotic errors he made playing it out really poorly. We really ought to have tested him more. On that, I wish we’d be a bit braver when Alebiosu picks the ball up. He literally ALWAYS manages to get a cross over. When we see that is happening Hedges should be steaming in at the far post and one of the midfielders should bust a gut to get in the box. Really frustrating how we don’t commit more men forward.

I assume it was the bodycheck on Ohashi but for me he'd already lost control of the ball. Seen them given, seen them not.

Was the penalty incident the one in the first half where we got a free kick on the edge of the box? It looked outside the area from where I was. Haven’t seen a replay though.

I honestly don't know how anyone can say that isn't a DOGSO.

No manger will ever say there player deserved a red, unless it was reckless challenge endangering a player and even then, rarely. Smug Kieran knows it was a red as did everyone else in the ground.

You realise that they have to want to take him too right? Can't imagine many takers.