The argument is applied when there’s a consistent pattern….mercer has the consistent pattern

There's no way a player like Dolan on a modest current wage is going to say no to a pay rise even of a few grand in favour of staying on the same money for another 18 months so he walks for free. Non of that makes sense unless the loyalty bonus is massive or there is a pre agreement with another club and big pay hike/signing on fee. These are young championship players not multi millionaire Prem academy lads Dolan himself said he was previously in the first team on £300 ish a week. At the very least you'd sign your contract offer under the stipulation of a get out clause or bid trigger so i think it's obvious he was offered no real pay rise worth its salt.

Steady on old chap - Mercer is a stalwart of this message board, and capable of linguistic trapezery sufficient to tie the most eloquent of intellectuals in convoluted knots. Trolls can't do that 😉

No, it obviously should work both ways. But there’s a difference between someone saying they think a player is a good/bad signing and them writing a player off/thinking they’re the next messiah before a ball has been kicked.

What is a reasonable offer for Dolan?

Erm, ok. So we can conclude that the primary reason why we are looking in lesser foreign leagues (often at the bottom of) is for financial reasons. And the reason that we aren't extended contracts is again financially driven. Don't get why Dolan is any different. Had we stuck a reasonable contract offer in front of him, he likely would have signed it. It clearly wasn't a reasonable one.

Not if its only just been introduced in terms of new sigings. In other words regardless of wages now being paid you can't bring in any new ones on over 10k a week. Not a dig at you but i'm amazed this seems to be so difficult to comprehend although obviously it's only a rumour previous experience tells us how things can change here overnight. Then change back again !

Just to add to my previous post. This means it took Venkys three weeks from being given permission to send the £4.85 million to actually doing so. I’m starting to suspect we’re not a priority…

Why, do you think VI will be pleased with the transfer activity thus far? What a silly comment.

Does this argument only apply one way? Ie, anyone who says that x or y is a good signing, should that not also be said for fear of them turning out shite? If people actually wrote off these players, for example Batth and Weimann, then they would be beyond being able to acknowledge that actually, they were good signings.

Like I said it not how the club should be run. The CEO should be running the club with everyone reporting to him and the board. BrfcPrivy (@BrfcP7414) / X

You're definitely a troll poster.

Oh dear, looks like we are sliding back into the bad old days again. Whether it is right or wrong about the wage cap makes no difference. Whether we have a £10k a week self imposed wage cap or don't, makes no practical difference. Either way we are incapable of keeping our best players due to our approach to contracts. I don't care if we are going around offering £50k a week, if players don't sign the damn thing its the same end result - failure and assets leaving to go to rivals. The point is that whatever we are doing isn't working. Hence in the space of 4 years a complete and total exodus of just about every player with value or who could command a deal elsewhere, leaving us with unknowns, academy grads and cheap signings like Forshaw. Truly pathetic. Nobody knows what Derby are offering Batth. Maybe it is 2 years, maybe not. You seem to have acquired inside knowledge that they are giving him 2 years and seem to have decided that it is ridiculous for us to have done the same. Again, doesn't really matter. What matters is that he is a good player, a leader, was outstanding for us last season, we were a better team with him in the side, and ultimately whatever the cause of it he's deciding to walk away from us after less than a year, walk away from regular game time with us and potentially the captaincy once we've offloaded the incumbent, to join another club. That tells me that what we are offering isn't good enough. Our choice. You're rewriting history on Eustace. He left because this club is a shambolic joke, that bungled last summer so much so that he threatened to resign despite only joining in February. A club that trousered almost all of the Adam Wharton and Szmodics cash and left him scratching around for cheap signings to rebuild despite keeping us up. A club that mucked around the easy signings of McFadzean and Batth despite the manager wanting both and from that moment on had his eyes on moving elsewhere. A club that introduced a rookie work experience director of football over the top of Eustace who I'd say has forgotten more about the Championship than Gestede will ever know. A club that changes 'project' every year, not because it is trying to get somewhere but because it can't retain staff because they quickly realise it is a lie and doomed to fail because the owners down aren't fit for purpose. People like you who reset every summer and forget about all the above and invent narratives to make you feel better about the state of play at Ewood play right into the regime's grubby hands. Rovers don't want to explore the overseas market any more than they did 10 years ago. It is just the way we have chosen to go because by choosing to slash costs it is inevitable that we have to go to the bargain basement to find signings. Their choice. If Eustace had been a good boy, shut up and got on with it and stayed put they'd be doing something totally different now. There's no plan. It is just fake and a con job.

You can players from overseas for less wages and less transfer free. We have made plenty of good signings from overseas and yes we have some poor ones just like the domestic market. We need to be looking in all market even Australia and USA. Yes of course, probably things we will never know about but I do think that transfer and who has the major say is a important one If Batth has sign a straight 2 year contract there then fair enough cos I stand by I wouldn't have done. 1 year contract will club option or something fair enough but not a straight 2 year contract. We should have been in talks with Travis, Tronstad and Brittain during this past season so Rovers have no defence to be honest. Dolan, I feel he knows about 18 months he wanted to see out of contract and move on a free transfer.

Beat me to it…..exactly this

You don’t but you can learn from your mistakes. ie. if you’ve previously written off players before they’ve played for the club and then they do ok maybe don’t then go and write off further players in the same way.

Can't see how the 10k wage cap can be a thing otherwise we wouldn't be able to trigger the extensions on players like Hyam.

I don't really understand that argument. Players do better or worse than we initially think, and our opinion can change. You don't have to keep the same opinion.

But you said last summer (before playing for us) that batth and weimann were desperation signings and on the back of them signing would take a miracle for us to stay up. Now you’ve went full circle and are in uproar these lads are leaving and doing what you did last season not giving any of the new lads a chance yet

We are losing 3 steady Championship performers and so far we've recruited, IMO, a washed-up Forshaw who we didn't want at the end of the season (that is desperate), Tavares who managed 15 starts out of 34 for Moreirense but only completed 3 of those games and De Neve whose move to a Championship club astonished a local Belgian journalist given his seemingly very modest playing ability. I'd down a few Guinness if I was you and they might help you to see the ludicrousy of both your argument and Rovers' plight!

One of the conditions of Venkys being able to send money over is an Affidavit (regarding the use of the funds) must be filed with the court within one working day of the funds being remitted. An affidavit was filed on the 16th June…

i think they`de forego their "loyalty bonus" to get out of ewood for a progressive club who want to challenge for promotion

Said the same yesterday and was shot down saying why would they risk their loyalty bonus payments - if the 10k cap is true they all should just ask for a transfer

travis,brittain and sonny will no doubt be trying to machinate their exits now,i would to if i was in their position,why risk potential injury when you are in the last year of your contract with the club seemingly unwilling to compromise on a new deal

Two of those leaving you said last summer were utter desperation signings….not sure why your so much in uproar now