[Archived] Rovers Sold ??

[nicko]

A DAN DEAL was a headline.

The fact is that Daniel Williams and his people are prepared to pay more than anyone else.

And it's a lot closer than he is letting on.

[Parasyte]

Can you at least give us a tenuous Da Vinci Code style clue as to who you are, Nicko?

Personally, I am am equally excited and wary. Williams sounds like he could get the club in trouble 5 years down the line, but then I trust Jacks will wont allow the trust to sell if that is even a small chance of happening.

Just in case he's a crock, though, I'll start a letter to some other potential backers.

Dear Mr W Gates...

[tcj_jones]

I like Nicko...

[trueblue]

I like Nicko...

I might like him too... if he'd answer my question

[Ste B]

Can you at least give us a tenuous Da Vinci Code style clue as to who you are, Nicko?

Can we stop playing guess the poster please, and keep on topic.

[HairwayToSteven]

Think I get enough mentions on this site already

Intriguing to say the very least! Maybe it's Vinjay in disguise .

Edit: sorry, didn't see the previous post.

[nicko]

It's delicate.

But you will find Daniel Williams gets that website scrapped.

If you look closely you will see it's done by somebody on a two-bob budget.

And, one thing is for sure, yer man is not two-bob.

Has nobody thought it would be a good idea to have a 30-year-old worth a few million running the club? You have to respect his ideas.

Sure there will be a profit on the horizon. But that comes with success.

There is nothing to suggest he is an asset stripper.

Americans see the Premier League as a place to get the potential of free money from TV deals, so that is why it is appealing.

The only way to be in the Premier and on TV is to spend properly.

The alternatives are having the current owners, who have done their bit but are tired of it.

Or some casino owner.

So far the guy has done nothing to deserve all of the doubt and derision.

[Craigman]

Totally agree with you Nicko.

The only problem is that we all live an breathe Blackburn Rovers and no one wants to see us hurt in anyway. Just a bit of reservation from us all, that is it.

[nicko]

Not being critical, never done this before. You are entitled to your views and opinions. Totally.

But I thought it was unfair that a guy with decent intentions was being called 'dodgy.'

[trueblue]

Whilst I respect (and appreciate) your views on the subject Nicko, you can't blame people on here for worrying about the future of thier club.

We all want what's best for Blackburn Rovers

[Ste B]

So far the guy has done nothing to deserve all of the doubt and derision.

He had better get used to that, its what Rovers fans are best at, at the end of the day were all bloody pessimists.. Once we've actually heard some facts and seen what this chaps got to offer I think people will start to form a more realistic opinion.

Website does look like an attempt to cash in and direct some traffic to a main site that will make a few quid from adverts. I'm not 100% convinced I havent seen that trick done before, certainly for another clubs takeover. (I was saying that something seemed strangely familiar about the whole thing yesterday)

[blue phil]

What we do need is a commited set of owners, I have tremendous appreciation for the Trustees but you can't look on them as a long-term, stable solution. The Rovers have passed through many hands since 1875 and probably will pass through some more.

Maybe I'm missing something but why can't they be a long term stable solution ? At least we know they are bound to the club's interests and not going to run off with the money if they manage to make any profit over a period of time .

If any of the current members of the trust want to go then surely they can do ...and be replaced by like minded specialists who are themselves bound by the trust . I'd rather have the TV money - or potential new money from emerging markets - in the hands of the trust .

Try as I might I just can't see Rovers as a club being capable of taking the next step upwards and breaking into the top 4 or even 6 - and most certainly not with £10 mill transfers being frowned upon . Which leaves us with these investors gambling on us staying roughly where we are now - mid table premier league .

The bottom line is that we aren't Man Utd or Liverpool ; one bad season , or one bad manager (should Hughes leave) doesn't just mean slipping a few places - it means relegation . I can't see , on the evidence so far at least , that this consortium could guarantee us long term premiership glory . So maybe the long term isn't what they're about........

[T4E]

Can you at least give us a tenuous Da Vinci Code style clue as to who you are, Nicko?

Personally, I am am equally excited and wary. Williams sounds like he could get the club in trouble 5 years down the line, but then I trust Jacks will wont allow the trust to sell if that is even a small chance of happening.

Just in case he's a crock, though, I'll start a letter to some other potential backers.

Dear Mr W Gates...

I might like him too... if he'd answer my question

Intriguing to say the very least! Maybe it's Vinjay in disguise .

Edit: sorry, didn't see the previous post.

The inference is that he is Alan Nixon, hence "our favourite tabloid journalist".

Whether that is true or not will probably remain a mystery. If it is true however, great to have you on board

[John]

Ok, the tv money Prem league clubs get from Sky is good but what happens when our prospective new owners realise that BRFC cannot and will probably never give them the profits they think they can get from a Premiership club?

Unless they have a revolutionary marketing plan, it looks like we will continue to struggle with our fanbase. In addition, our merchandise turnover is hardly to going to make much cash!

[trueblue]

Niceone T4E... but quoting me in that post was a bit remiss on your part mate.. my question to Nicko was regarding the DJW website NOT who he was

[T4E]

Niceone T4E... but quoting me in that post was a bit remiss on your part mate.. my question to Nicko was regarding the DJW website NOT who he was

Sorry buddy, I wasn't sure what your question was so I played the averages and quoted!

[Exiled in Toronto]

We should remember that Jack died 7 years ago when we were in the Championship and the only kinds of football club ownership were wealthy fanatics, long term meglomaniacs (Deadly Doug, Bates etc) or stock market floatations. There were none of the former, and it doesn't take a genius to avoid the latter two. The fact is the club is being sold virtually as soon as a new kind of prospective buyer - investors -has appeared, to me suggests a lot about the directions the trust must be working under. The new TV deal has changed everything, and we must now cast aside the comfort blanket of the Trust.

There's plenty of Luddite-ism and hand-wringing on this thread. We have a disengaged ownership who want to sell, which makes me want them to sell us. This bloke is local, has seen us more times live than me this last season (and 3 times more than Mr Egerton-Vernon, I'll wager) and must have the resources for it to have got this far.

He isn't Jack, but he's a lot closer than any other of the recent EPL purchasers have been to their respective clubs. And I believe Nicko - the last thing you do in a big money purchase is give full and accurate progress reports to the local rag

[BlueMonday]

It's delicate.

But you will find Daniel Williams gets that website scrapped.

If you look closely you will see it's done by somebody on a two-bob budget.

And, one thing is for sure, yer man is not two-bob.

Has nobody thought it would be a good idea to have a 30-year-old worth a few million running the club? You have to respect his ideas.

Sure there will be a profit on the horizon. But that comes with success.

There is nothing to suggest he is an asset stripper.

Americans see the Premier League as a place to get the potential of free money from TV deals, so that is why it is appealing.

The only way to be in the Premier and on TV is to spend properly.

The alternatives are having the current owners, who have done their bit but are tired of it.

Or some casino owner.

So far the guy has done nothing to deserve all of the doubt and derision.

Most people on this MB are pragmatic about Rovers future. Though I don't personally know D.W. I can well believe he has a passion for Rovers and this may well make his motives honourable. But what of the "Backers'. Can we be sure they have a passion for Rovers or are their motives profit only.

If the "backers' are putting up the serious money it will be they who call the shots and if they have no passion for Rovers that makes me nervous. I may not be a share holder but I AM a stake holder. The stake holders aren't saying they are against the deal, just that we have concerns. We don't want to be in a Man U/ Glazer type situaion as it is unlikely a club like Rovers could withstand such finacial pressures.

[Tris]

And I believe Nicko - the last thing you do in a big money purchase is give full and accurate progress reports to the local rag

His interview today was as straight as you get from a millionaire.

Give him a chance.

Are you referring to that quote EIT?!

I'd say the last thing you do in a big money purchase is give anything away to the local rag at all - unless it's a full and accurate progress report.

Nothing more certain to upset the locals than if that interview is full of half truths or worse.

[Parasyte]

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Sorry, read original post back 2 miutes after posted and realised I was talking our of my arse.

[thenodrog]

The inference is that he is Alan Nixon, hence "our favourite tabloid journalist".

I thought that title belonged to JimMk2.

[Roversider]

Maybe I'm missing something but why can't they be a long term stable solution ?

The thing you are missing, sadly, is that the present Trustees have been trying to find a new owner for at least two years by the admission of John Williams.

I have no idea what other facts there may be but that is in the public domain.

Like it or not the only, and I mean only, people who will get a say in this sale are the Trustees and any potential buyers.

[thenodrog]

Don't get me wrong, I knew we weren't going to get another Jack, but I'd love to get as close as possible.

Fred?

[Alan75]

Are you referring to that quote EIT?!

I'd say the last thing you do in a big money purchase is give anything away to the local rag at all - unless it's a full and accurate progress report.

Nothing more certain to upset the locals than if that interview is full of half truths or worse.

I'd say the last thing you do in a big money purchase is give anything away.

Anyone notice how little has come out of the club.

Softly Softly, Catch the Monkey. .

[HairwayToSteven]

Fred?

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