Venky’s v Indian Government (a) - 5/8/2025 - Post-Season Friendly (s/t late postponements)

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I’ve looked at the EFL disqualifying criteria and am not hopeful of this happening. 

Blimey.

What sort of things are deemed serious enough to disqualify someone then?

[Mashed Potatoes]

9 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Blimey.

What sort of things are deemed serious enough to disqualify someone then?

It happens rarely. As we have seen at Reading there were problems over a period of years regarding non payment of wages and taxes before the owner was required to sell.

[wilsdenrover]

24 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Blimey.

What sort of things are deemed serious enough to disqualify someone then?

There’s a very long list but I’m not sure the current action against them is covered by any of the things on it.

There’s one or two I think could ‘catch them’ but I’m far from certain.*

It was reported that Reading’s owner was disqualified for his business interests in China, has anyone checked whether there’s a Bejing (or Moscow) branch of a Venkys xprs? 😁😁

* these hinge on whether the ‘charges’ being proven would constitute a conviction - I don’t think they  would as FEMA (the law in question) is a civil one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 15:19 by wilsdenrover

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

* these hinge on whether the ‘charges’ being proven would constitute a conviction - I don’t think they  would as FEMA (the law in question) is a civil one.

Surely it can't hinge solely on whether ( if it happens) they're found to have committed a Civil or Criminal offence?

By way of example Bankruptcy per se isn't a criminal offence but if any owner found themselves in that position, presumably that would suffice?

[Mashed Potatoes]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Surely it can't hinge solely on whether ( if it happens) they're found to have committed a Civil or Criminal offence?

By way of example Bankruptcy per se isn't a criminal offence but if any owner found themselves in that position, presumably that would suffice?

Not sure that bankruptcy would suffice for an existing owner provided a club was continuing to pay their way and could demonstrate that they could continue to do so.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Not sure that bankruptcy would suffice for an existing owner provided a club was continuing to pay their way and could demonstrate that they could continue to do so.

We can't though.

[Mashed Potatoes]

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

We can't though.

Per the rules we have to be able to do so.

[wilsdenrover]

13 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Surely it can't hinge solely on whether ( if it happens) they're found to have committed a Civil or Criminal offence?

By way of example Bankruptcy per se isn't a criminal offence but if any owner found themselves in that position, presumably that would suffice?

No it doesn’t hinge solely on that but one of the ‘lists within the list’ covers convictions for various offences.

Bankruptcy is on a different part of the list (in with such things as being subject to an IVA).

[wilsdenrover]

16 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Not sure that bankruptcy would suffice for an existing owner provided a club was continuing to pay their way and could demonstrate that they could continue to do so.

Yep, bankruptcy is a disqualify event.

Edited yesterday at 15:49 by wilsdenrover

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Per the rules we have to be able to do so.

We couldn't if support from Venky's was officially cut off.

At least not without miraculously unearthing a new batch of Adam Whartons.

[Mashed Potatoes]

3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Yep, bankruptcy is a disqualify event.

OK -Thanks

[Upside Down]

8 hours ago, arbitro said:

It's a free hit for him too. If he reads the posts from wilsdenrover and IraC it will save him trawling through documents. Hell fire he could actually join this forum and pm and ask them for information.

He is either lazy or there is some kind of veiled threat to his employers from Pasha.

It's access journalism. If he starts reporting about what is happening then the LET will lose access to the club.

Given the fact Rovers are the only thing keeping the LET afloat, there will never be any kind of investigative stories on this matter from them. If they lost access to Rovers all's they've got is headlines like "EXCLUSIVE! Woman Fights Her Three Year Old Son Over £10 Bag Of Heroin"

[Mike E]

1 hour ago, Upside Down said:

It's access journalism. If he starts reporting about what is happening then the LET will lose access to the club.

Given the fact Rovers are the only thing keeping the LET afloat, there will never be any kind of investigative stories on this matter from them. If they lost access to Rovers all's they've got is headlines like "EXCLUSIVE! Woman Fights Her Three Year Old Son Over £10 Bag Of Heroin"

To any journo worth their salt (which is the whole problem), that is a story in itself.

[Upside Down]

2 hours ago, Mike E said:

To any journo worth their salt (which is the whole problem), that is a story in itself.

Not really, it's standard fare everywhere especially for government and other institutions like that. The whole institution of 'journalism' is completely co-opted into that. That's why you never see any real exposés of any corruption or what have you. It's not really journalism it's just propaganda.

There are smaller independent journalists that actually do their job properly but they're harder to find. They are out there though.

Venkys use a lot of the same tactics as governments but just in a cheaper and shitter way which is why they're so easy to predict.

Unless you were talking about the woman fighting her toddler over a bag of smack, which again is a daily occurrence in Blackburn and not really much of a newsworthy story.

[paullarrygher]

It turns out Elliott Jackson had missed the most recent court order. Wait and see whether it's reported on...

[RevidgeBlue]

17 minutes ago, paullarrygher said:

It turns out Elliott Jackson had missed the most recent court order. Wait and see whether it's reported on...

His job is purportedly to report on all things Rovers and he "missed" it.

ROFL.

If we went bust, I wonder how long it would be before he noticed that........

[Norbert Rassragr]

John Gotti or Pablo Escobar would've probably been given the green light to buy a club in England. 

[Upside Down]

30 minutes ago, Norbert Rassragr said:

John Gotti or Pablo Escobar would've probably been given the green light to buy a club in England. 

Provided they jad money in the bank then yes, they would.

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, paullarrygher said:

It turns out Elliott Jackson had missed the most recent court order. Wait and see whether it's reported on...

Did you tell him to keep an eye on this thread and we’ll keep him updated?

Back to front I know but needs must 😁😁

Edited 2 hours ago by wilsdenrover

[Tomphil2]

2 hours ago, Norbert Rassragr said:

John Gotti or Pablo Escobar would've probably been given the green light to buy a club in England. 

At least we'd know what they really wanted it for unlike this lot.