Exiled in Toronto Mk2 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 7 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: We don't know if it can be delivered or not. Judging by Saturday's attendance many have taken up the call to arms already. 15 years of increasing apathy, worst first half season at home in history, two games abandoned are all far more compelling causes of crap attendance. 2 Quote
Exiled in Toronto Mk2 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, glen9mullan said: Whats always interesting reading social media is the loudest voices of opposition to change in the main don't actually go Ewood. I find it incredible on X in particular the opposition to boycotting is from supporters who aint actually going or have never been. That’s because social media isn’t representative. It’s the only connection to the club for fans who live abroad / far away / have found other things to spend their money on, so those groups are over-represented on here. The fans I personally know who go mostly have never posted on here, or know/care it exists. And critiquing the tactics isn’t the same as “opposed to change”. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 13 minutes ago, M_B said: The boycott would look even more effective if the game before against Charlton was a sell out,see what you're missing sort of thing. So if everyone who hasn't attended a game for God knows how long could possibly turn out for Charlton in early January that would be brilliant, come on, let's sell it out and show them what they're missing. After all, it's only one game. So just to clarify your own personal position, if there was a "Take back the Club" style effort at filling the ground at the Charlton game with all manner of anti Venky's protests, you'd be prepared to participate in the boycott of the Watford game? Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said: And critiquing the tactics isn’t the same as “opposed to change”. Well find us a Canadian multibillionaire anxious to get a foothold in English soccer then, and we can cut out most of the foreplay! 🙂 Quote
M_B Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: So just to clarify your own personal position, if there was a "Take back the Club" style effort at filling the ground at the Charlton game with all manner of anti Venky's protests, you'd be prepared to participate in the boycott of the Watford game? You sell it out, I'll miss Watford . # it's only one game. Edited 12 hours ago by M_B 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, M_B said: You sell it out, I'll miss Watford . I think you know that there's absolutely no chance of us selling out the ground for any game. Just as there's no chance of there being zero home fans in for Watford. It's a matter of degree. If such a thing were done, what would you consider a decent enough effort in the first game to persuade you to miss the second? 20k home fans? Quote
M_B Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 15 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: I think you know that there's absolutely no chance of us selling out the ground for any game. Just as there's no chance of there being zero home fans in for Watford. It's a matter of degree. If such a thing were done, what would you consider a decent enough effort in the first game to persuade you to miss the second? 20k home fans? We're not getting anywhere near 15000,we both know that. I was making a point about it being "only one game". Turn the tables and that "only one game" becomes a big deal. Quote
Upside Down Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 10 hours ago, StHelensRover said: I'd be really interested to know what the main decision is for those who go as to why they're not prepared to boycott, ones I can think of myself are: - the owners don't care and it won't work - not fair on the players - it's really important part of my routine or the routine of my dependents (e.g. children, elderly or vulnerable) which I cannot forgo, even for one game - I don't care about what happens off the pitch, I just 'back the boys' no matter what - No one tells me what to do That last one in bold is something I heard a few people saying at Ewood on Saturday, that included people who chant against the owners etc. I don't really understand that last one, just sounds like oppositional defiance. For each of those above reasons not to boycott, it's hard to get a message or interaction across that can interact with each point and put something convincing across without attracting hostile responses. I sympathise with the coalition on that point, it's very difficult All of those reasons are not rooted in a love of the club or the desire to see the club do well and represent us, the people of the town and community, on the biggest stage possible. They're rooted in selfish behaviour and a complete egotistical world view. "No one tells me what to do" - Said like a 5 year old and with the same mentality. "Going to Rovers is my choice, my routine" It's all about them. Not a thought about the future or past of the club. No thought of pride and being part of something bigger than yourself. No thought about ensuring that we have a strong club going forward to hand over to future generations, something they can be proud of. These thoughts don't factor into it. It's just all about them and their small little world. Saturday afternoon is when they go to Ewood Park (for now) and watch a team wearing blue and white shirts play football. That's it. Fair do's if that's all you care about, but I don't want to hear anything from you about the performance on the pitch, the shit show that will be our inevitable relegation(s) or anything else. If you've not got the bollocks or brains to get on board and put in the most minimal effort (literally just do nothing) to improve the situation of the club then shut the fuck up about anything else to do with this football club. Your opinion is completely invalid. If you're not prepared to take some action to rid this club of the virus that is venkys ownership then YOU ARE part of the problem. Edited 12 hours ago by Upside Down 1 Quote
toogs Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 5 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: First part, you're probably right. Second part, I doubt it is in real terms once you've taken away the Championship TV money. League 2 wages. Move away from Ewood Park. Sell the training ground. Cheap as chips. They could even allow us to go lower, until the finances work. Ave turnover of L2 clubs is 3-6 million. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 8 hours ago, Mattyblue said: What’s still to cut? Cut the wage bill further (Cantwell? get shut of those wages), close the Riverside, downgrade the Academy, have another go at putting houses on Brockhall, loads to go at. This is the baffling thing. Why make cutbacks? We don't want you here and you lose circa £20m a year just by owning the club. Sell it and rid yourselves of this headache. Quote
Vinjay Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Upside Down said: All of those reasons are not rooted in a love of the club or the desire to see the club do well and represent us, the people of the town and community, on the biggest stage possible. They're rooted in selfish behaviour and a complete egotistical world view. "No one tells me what to do" - Said like a 5 year old and with the same mentality. "Going to Rovers is my choice, my routine" It's all about them. Not a thought about the future or past of the club. No thought of pride and being part of something bigger than yourself. No thought about ensuring that we have a strong club going forward to hand over to future generations, something they can be proud of. These thoughts don't factor into it. It's just all about them and their small little world. Saturday afternoon is when they go to Ewood Park (for now) and watch a team wearing blue and white shirts play football. That's it. Fair do's if that's all you care about, but I don't want to hear anything from you about the performance on the pitch, the shit show that will be our inevitable relegation(s) or anything else. If you've not got the bollocks or brains to get on board and put in the most minimal effort (literally just do nothing) to improve the situation of the club then shut the fuck up about anything else to do with this football club. Your opinion is completely invalid. If you're not prepared to take some action to rid this club of the virus that is venkys ownership then YOU ARE part of the problem. If someone set themselves on fire on the pitch all they would do is moan about missing the game. People that like are not worth it. What Jack did wasn't worth it. That's what he would say if he had to listen to people like that. How could you not? Edited 10 hours ago by Vinjay Quote
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