Rudy Gestede

[joey_big_nose]

33 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

To be fair, Raya used to get pelters on here as well

Given our track record on rejecting keepers I am fully expecting Pears to surprise us all and get premier league games like Steele, Walton, Raya.

[Scotty1991]

13 hours ago, lraC said:

Let’s hope there is some real traction here, with these calls and the boycott.

They are still on Twitter at the minute, so as yet, perhaps no legal threats for them to be removed.

Hope the press are on to this, as well as the ban.

On another note, I did hear from someone who I know personally and who posts on here and is close to the Wharton family, that Crystal Palace described their dealings with the club on Adam’s sale as being amateur. 

How can you be threatened legally for posting a telephone conversation? Was the conversation under an NDA? Was there a clause issued prior to the call that it was not to be recorded?

[KentExile]

17 minutes ago, Scotty1991 said:

How can you be threatened legally for posting a telephone conversation? Was the conversation under an NDA? Was there a clause issued prior to the call that it was not to be recorded?

I think its more the case that you need to pay for representation for whatever trumped up case they try to bring against you, and Rudy/Pasha/Venkys have more money than you do, so if you get tied up in court, you will run dry before they do

Edited yesterday at 14:05 by KentExile

[Penwortham Blue]

15 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Having heard the full calls, and there are many, to both Suhail and Rudy.

The caller clearly states who he is and which clubs he's from etc.

The X poster, i'm not sure who it is, but this story emerging has been mentioned on BRFCS before, I guess timing, rainy day, top pocket for better words, is critical given the clubs current state of affairs.

Many people are peed off at Rovers, and needle in a haystack springs to mind now, in terms of where the bombs originate from.

I suspect given various conversations ive had in the last 12 months, others would have had similar or different ones where more skeletons emerge.

To underestimate the true reach of supporters or indeed their intelect has been a trait forever associated with Rovers.

Its full hands to the pumps on Boycott saturday, some articles in national press due out Friday/saturday.

All we can all do who support this action is keep spreading the word

 

Not having a go Glen but, if you have heard all the calls in full then why can’t they be released so that the wider Blackburn Rovers fan base can listen ?

[Penwortham Blue]

14 hours ago, lraC said:

Let’s hope there is some real traction here, with these calls and the boycott.

They are still on Twitter at the minute, so as yet, perhaps no legal threats for them to be removed.

Hope the press are on to this, as well as the ban.

On another note, I did hear from someone who I know personally and who posts on here and is close to the Wharton family, that Crystal Palace described their dealings with the club on Adam’s sale as being amateur. 

And then negotiations would have been led by Swag and Broughton and so if we were bad then, just imagine what we will be like now ! Unfortunately, they still managed to get that one across the line, depriving us of seeing a generational talent in his beloved blue and white for a while longer.

Edited yesterday at 15:01 by Penwortham Blue

[funny-old-game]

46 minutes ago, KentExile said:

I think its more the case that you need to pay for representation for whatever trumped up case they try to bring against you, and Rudy/Pasha/Venkys have more money than you do, so if you get tied up in court, you will run dry before they do

Did anyone pre sale to the clowns think we'd be having these conversations. Fucking Venkys and spivs they came in with😡

[RevidgeBlue]

3 hours ago, RoverDom said:

He's a good keeper we just lose when we play him

Well, we lose when we play Toth as well, but I know what you mean.

[XLM]

3 hours ago, Scotty1991 said:

How can you be threatened legally for posting a telephone conversation? Was the conversation under an NDA? Was there a clause issued prior to the call that it was not to be recorded?

Because it is against the law to share a phonecall publicly without consent. You could argue it's in the public interest I suppose but you'd probably lose.

If the person recording is acting on behalf of a business, they have to tell the other side they're recording and if they're acting as an individual they can record, but they can't share it publicly because the GDPR then applies as it's no longer "personal" use.

As is my understanding anyway. Not legal advice etc etc

[Tomphil2]

Unpopular opinion but Pears is probably the best or amongst the best 2nd Keepers in this league.

And nobody is keeping many clean sheets in this present and recent Ismael team.

500k is a farce for him at this stage unless there are achievable add on's although maybe they are trying to be fair and get him fixed up but much more likely they are desperate to get that wage off the books.

They won't want to pay a reserve keeper a first team wage and also that clown comes across as commission hungry to wheel and deal.

[RevidgeBlue]

35 minutes ago, XLM said:

Because it is against the law to share a phonecall publicly without consent. You could argue it's in the public interest I suppose but you'd probably lose.

If the person recording is acting on behalf of a business, they have to tell the other side they're recording and if they're acting as an individual they can record, but they can't share it publicly because the GDPR then applies as it's no longer "personal" use.

As is my understanding anyway. Not legal advice etc etc

Yeah, Im very uneasy about these alleged phone calls.

I've only heard an extract from one of them on here which sounded like a prank call trying to make Suhail sound stupid.

Are they prank calls or are they recordings of genuine business transactions? If the latter, why  would they be recorded in the first place, who recorded them and and did both parties know they were being recorded and agree to it?

Either way the Coalition has put in a lot of hard work (seemingly at their own expense) and at the moment the way results have fallen we have them on the ropes.

Imo care has to be taken not to undermine that by doing anything that allows the Club to take the moral high ground.

Edited 23 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[RoversClitheroe]

6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Yeah, Im very uneasy about these alleged phone calls.

I've only heard an extract from one of them on here which sounded like a prank call trying to make Suhail sound stupid.

Are they prank calls or are they recordings of genuine business transactions? If the latter, why  would they be recorded in the first place, who recorded them and and did both parties know they were being recorded and agree to it?

Either way the Coalition has put in a lot of hard work (seemingly at their own expense) and at the moment the way results have fallen we have them on the ropes.

Imo care has to be taken not to undermine that by doing anything that allows the Club to take the moral high ground.

Agreed.

[Lancaster Rover]

9 hours ago, TheKitGuy said:

With Raya though, similar to Wharton you could see he had the mould of a top top professional player. At the moment in our squad nobody stands out like that, hence they aren't worth any money. Not discrediting any of our players as i'm sure under certain conditions they can perform. But how many can perform at the Ewood circus? Evidently not many. I got pelters for saying Ohashi is guff. Just because he presses does not mean he is a good player. 

Ohashi is guff. The primary measure of a strikers success is goals, and ideally the more goals for the fewest amount of chances. Ohashi misses far more than he scores. I love his attitude and endeavour but looking at it objectively  in terms of raw output he’s crap. 

[DE.]

Ohashi is a solid harrier in a forward frontline, but a proper striker he ain't. The fact he's often our only really viable striking option is an indictment on our terrible recruitment. 

[Tomphil2]

Can't knock the mans graft but Yuki gets in about two good goal scoring positions per game often played in with a clear run on goal but the end product is usually nothing.

Scores a pearler now and then which is great but to rely on him for many goal contributions is a weak philosophy.

[glen9mullan]

9 hours ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Not having a go Glen but, if you have heard all the calls in full then why can’t they be released so that the wider Blackburn Rovers fan base can listen ?

They are not mine to release, im sure more will come out reading X, 

The originator has obviously either trusted someone to post them or is posting them.

Leaking things aint easy, so i respect his right to do what he thinks. Integrity and trust important, so it wont be me posting them

[TommyRovers]

22 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Yeah, Im very uneasy about these alleged phone calls.

I've only heard an extract from one of them on here which sounded like a prank call trying to make Suhail sound stupid.

Are they prank calls or are they recordings of genuine business transactions? If the latter, why  would they be recorded in the first place, who recorded them and and did both parties know they were being recorded and agree to it?

Either way the Coalition has put in a lot of hard work (seemingly at their own expense) and at the moment the way results have fallen we have them on the ropes.

Imo care has to be taken not to undermine that by doing anything that allows the Club to take the moral high ground.

100%
 

Slippery ground legally and can easily be used against the cause by the club.

 

The drip feeding of this information is also incredibly annoying. We’ve waited long enough.

[sharpysharps86]

17 hours ago, DE. said:

Ohashi is a solid harrier in a forward frontline, but a proper striker he ain't. The fact he's often our only really viable striking option is an indictment on our terrible recruitment. 

Ohashi at most other Championship clubs would've been signed as a bench filler and impact sub. He seemed absolutely perfect for the role of coming on and using all that energy against tired defenders - The lovely dink on his debut against Derby and the last minute equaliser against Norwich spring to mind.

Unfortunately for Rovers, their recruitment has been so awful that he's ended up leading the line pretty much ever since Ismael came in, which is just not what he's built for, and he looks absolutely shattered for it too, which I imagine plays a part in why he also appears absolutely useless these days...goal away at Portsmouth aside.

I love the guy for his energy, but as soon as Gudjohnsen is back Ohashi needs to spend a few weeks on the bench.