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Usually around this time that we start to hear about how Batth's girlfriend/wife/great uncle has family in the Derby area and he wants to go and play there as he will be closer to home. 

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35 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

‘No chance we’re re-signing/signing him’
 

You say the same every summer/Jan about every player we are linked with and then claim you were right😉 

 

You’re bound to be right about some!

 

Come off it, bottom line is seemingly we can't or won't even compete with Derby for two thirty somethings in Batth and Weimann.

Weimann would be no great loss imo but failing to secure Batth would be a major blow no matter what some are saying about his age.

If we were trying to scrimp about on these two to save money to bring in more expensive signings as well then that would be fine but I think we can pretty much guarantee that won't be the case.

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3 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Usually around this time that we start to hear about how Batth's girlfriend/wife/great uncle has family in the Derby area and he wants to go and play there as he will be closer to home. 

Or that he has a love of horse racing, especially 3 year olds. 

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On 05/05/2025 at 15:57, JCRovers said:

The signing of Batth on a free proved to be a really good one:

Games played: 35

Wins: 15
Draws: 6
Losses: 14

Goal difference: 38-33
Number of clean sheets: 13 (37 % of all matches)
Average goals conceded per game: 0,94


Games not played: 11

Wins: 4
Draws: 3
Losses: 4

Goal difference: 15-15
Number of clean sheets: 2 (18 % of all matches)
Average goals conceded per game: 1,36
 

Posted this on another thread a while ago. Would argue that losing Batth is damaging if we can't replace his experience. We currently have two keepers who doesn't command their box or instill confidence to the backline (although Toth has made some improvements lately), meaning that there will be a lack of leadership at the back if Batth goes. 

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14 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Come off it, bottom line is seemingly we can't or won't even compete with Derby for two thirty somethings in Batth and Weimann.

Weimann would be no great loss imo but failing to secure Batth would be a major blow no matter what some are saying about his age.

If we were trying to scrimp about on these two to save money to bring in more expensive signings as well then that would be fine but I think we can pretty much guarantee that won't be the case.

Which has nothing to do with what I posted.

And the people upset we are going to lose Batth and Weimann are the same people who were upset we were signing them last summer😉

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1 hour ago, Tugayisgod said:

Have to agree. Disappointing perhaps, but not a disaster imo.

Centre backs are probably the easiest position to pick up bargains, and if we do sign the French lad then I'm sure we can pick up a cheap alternative somewhere.

Weimann would be a bench warmer, so again I'm prepared to see what the recruitment team comes up with in that position.

We all know Eustaces preference for older players , but somewhere down the line that policy will come back to haunt you.

A sensible post - IF we can get Sagnan over the line, then on paper, it's one of the better signings we've made over the past few windows.

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18 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Usually around this time that we start to hear about how Batth's girlfriend/wife/great uncle has family in the Derby area and he wants to go and play there as he will be closer to home. 

That’s already begun courtesy of Jackson’s story today. Both Weimann and Batth have links to the midlands.

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1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Batth leaving and us signing a player who's younger and on a longer contract is surely a better result no? 

Potentially yes, but rational discussion has long left the building. 

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15 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

A sensible post - IF we can get Sagnan over the line, then on paper, it's one of the better signings we've made over the past few windows.

Didn't his side finish rock bottom of their League?

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1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Didn't his side finish rock bottom of their League?

Means absolutely nothing. Ligue 1 is a tough league with the majority of teams being a lot better than championship clubs...A handful of Luton players walk into our team and they're in league 1. 

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12 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Potentially yes, but rational discussion has long left the building. 

That's because realistically, the chances of us bringing in a younger player who's better than Batth on a longer contract are slim to none and Slim left town some time ago

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5 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Means absolutely nothing. Ligue 1 is a tough league with the majority of teams being a lot better than championship clubs...A handful of Luton players walk into our team and they're in league 1. 

I'm guessing you've never seen this lad play, I certainly haven't, one of those who could be great or could be absolutely terrible I'd assume.

Edit: That's assuming we're even genuinely interested in him which we won't be if there's much of a fee involved I don't suppose.

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3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I'm guessing you've never seen this lad play, I certainly haven't, one of those who could be great or could be absolutely terrible I'd assume.

 

I am assuming from his post yesterday, that Eddie has seen him play

 

On 26/05/2025 at 14:45, Eddie said:

He's definitely on his way out of Montpellier and has been heavily linked with moves to Italy and the Championship (Leeds, Sunderland). 

Valued at around €3 million (he only signed for Montpellier 18 months ago for a fee in that region), that seems like an awfully big chunk of money to spend on a central defender if our budget is similar to years past. 

He's quite decent on the ball for a central defender. A big physical presence. We've been missing that type of player at the back for a while and he also offers a useful goalscoring threat from set pieces. 

He'd be a good signing, but not sure it's an absolute priority when our budget doesn't stretch very far. 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

To be honest that could be said for all transfers 

I've no real view on signing this particular player either way other than it is a fairy speculative link and if it came to fruition one very much on the riskier end of the scale.

It's using that very tenuous link to justify not re-signing Batth (who is proven at this level) that I don't agree with.

It's not part of a grand masterplan to bring the age of the squad down either. We've offered Batth terms but so far he's rejected them.

 

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43 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Which has nothing to do with what I posted.

And the people upset we are going to lose Batth and Weimann are the same people who were upset we were signing them last summer😉

Fancy backing this up?

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39 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Batth leaving and us signing a player who's younger and on a longer contract is surely a better result no? 

No, signing a player who is better than Batth, is a better result

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17 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

I am assuming from his post yesterday, that Eddie has seen him play

 

 

 

Eddie's view is fair enough. I was replying to Bank End Rover.

FWIW I don't see us spending anywhere near E3m on a CB. We seem to be loath to spend half of that on a striker

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44 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Batth leaving and us signing a player who's younger and on a longer contract is surely a better result no? 

Depends on whether the player is as good or better than Batth. If not it's a poor result. Age is immaterial at a club where contracts aren't handled properly as they will simply walk elsewhere, even if we get some cash it doesn't come back in.

Someone younger than Batth on a longer contract but who costs more and is inferior or takes half a season to settle in isn't a good move.

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51 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Batth leaving and us signing a player who's younger and on a longer contract is surely a better result no? 

You'll only truly know that this time next year whereas we know Batth is a good solid reliable player.

Why gamble a fee and longer contract on something we don't know when it's easier and cheaper to get another season out of Batth and see where we are next summer, ie a whole 12 months to plan.

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14 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Eddie's view is fair enough. I was replying to Bank End Rover.

FWIW I don't see us spending anywhere near E3m on a CB. We seem to be loath to spend half of that on a striker

I do not see us spending anywhere near £3M on any individual player, I am assuming we are interested because there is a low release clause which has become active due to their relegation (purely a guess re the clause, but it would make some sense)

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33 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

You'll only truly know that this time next year whereas we know Batth is a good solid reliable player.

Why gamble a fee and longer contract on something we don't know when it's easier and cheaper to get another season out of Batth and see where we are next summer, ie a whole 12 months to plan.

All signings are a gamble, the club might be looking at an opportunity where a clause can be triggered to get a bargain price. I like Batth but if we can get this French lad across the line then, for me, it's a good start to the window...At least we know our recruitment team are being slightly adventurous.

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